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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 05:07 PM Dec 2014

Jeb Bush Clear Front-Runner In Latest Poll For Republican Presidential Race

Source: UK Daily Mail 12:33 EST, 29 December 2014

Jeb Bush has surged into the lead in the Republican presidential candidate race according to the latest poll. The surge in popularity follows his announcement last week to 'actively explore' a bid to run in the 2016 race.

According to the survey by CNN in conjunction with ORC, he is the choice of nearly a quarter (24 per cent) of GOP supporters interviewed and ten points ahead of his closest rival, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie (13 per cent). Physician Ben Carson came in third with 7 per cent of the support, while Senator Rand Paul and former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee were tied for fourth with 6 per cent.

It is the first time that a GOP potential has led beyond a poll's margin of error in the past two years. However, of the Republicans polled, some said they were less likely to vote for him on some of the issues he has encountered as the Governor of Florida. For example 42 per cent say his description of illegal immigration as an 'act of love' make them less likely to support Bush, but another 39 per cent say it makes no difference to them.

In the Democratic race, Hilary Clinton is still the runaway favorite, with two-thirds of support within her party. Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren is the closest to her, but with a distant 9 per cent. Last week Bush showed more signs he was preparing for a run at the White House.He stopped booking paid speeches, though he will follow through on previous commitments through early next year.







Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2889583/Jeb-Bush-clear-runner-latest-poll-Republican-presidential-race-following-announcing-actively-explore-bid.html

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Jeb Bush Clear Front-Runner In Latest Poll For Republican Presidential Race (Original Post) big_dog Dec 2014 OP
3/4 want someone else. Dawson Leery Dec 2014 #1
"Someone else" is always the frontrunner oberliner Dec 2014 #57
He'll be the next President Auggie Dec 2014 #2
I've had enough Bushies to last about 5 lifetimes big_dog Dec 2014 #4
So have I. They'll lie, cheat, steal and spend their way to victory. The 1% wants it so badly. Auggie Dec 2014 #5
We'll get whoever the vote "tabulators" want. blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #9
Live free or Diebold! KansDem Dec 2014 #56
Nope. The right WILL NOT vote for him. 7962 Dec 2014 #11
Scary thought lobodons Dec 2014 #12
I dont think moderates would vote for Cruz nt 7962 Dec 2014 #22
wingnuts will probably ask for Scott Walker type on the ticket so they wont stay home in Nov 2016 big_dog Dec 2014 #13
I think they will when lied to Auggie Dec 2014 #15
They will vote, overwhelmingly for him... SoapBox Dec 2014 #20
Go visit a few of the right wing websites; 7962 Dec 2014 #21
so what? reddread Dec 2014 #28
Bush/Clinton wont be as close as Bush/Gore was, IMO. nt 7962 Dec 2014 #30
Close doesn't matter when your side programs the central tabulators to win an election. loudsue Dec 2014 #33
If that was the case we wouldnt have two-term Pres Obama! 7962 Dec 2014 #34
was there a Bush running? you think they want someone else in their way? reddread Dec 2014 #36
And the left WILL NOT vote for Clinton Reter Dec 2014 #38
Using DU as a barometer, most WILL vote for her 7962 Dec 2014 #44
self selected, or whinnied down liberal participants arent the swing block reddread Dec 2014 #54
the real swing bloc is EXACTLY who we NEED. reddread Dec 2014 #55
"better call a cartage firm" .. now THATS funny stuff 7962 Dec 2014 #62
Hillary Clinton beats every Republican contender by a good margin. NYC Liberal Dec 2014 #63
In other words DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #3
What happened to mittens? louis-t Dec 2014 #6
the CNN/ORC polling firm got Mittens big_dog Dec 2014 #10
He lost, like most mittens I had as a kid. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2014 #19
I'm actively exploring not voting for Jeb. nt postulater Dec 2014 #7
Of course he is..republicans are sheep. Dawgs Dec 2014 #8
Remember who our front-runner is Reter Dec 2014 #39
Not really. Rand Paul could announce next week and he would be the front-runner. Dawgs Dec 2014 #46
one of these things is not like the other reddread Dec 2014 #50
What? n/t Dawgs Dec 2014 #52
exactly reddread Dec 2014 #53
.. Dawgs Dec 2014 #59
Not saying much chickenfairy Dec 2014 #14
Hillary will beat him handily. n/t cosmicone Dec 2014 #16
+10 (nt) reACTIONary Dec 2014 #31
Sure, he is the only "sane" one on the list. femmocrat Dec 2014 #17
More murky sleaziness from a GOP candidate (see L.A. Times article) C Moon Dec 2014 #18
It has been shown that a Bush can occupy ... kacekwl Dec 2014 #23
No. 7 on most unpopular with conservative websites jakeXT Dec 2014 #24
How quaint! Bush vs Clinton just for old times sake! Nihil Dec 2014 #25
Somebody wake me up from this lifelong Bush nightmare. Jamastiene Dec 2014 #26
Jeb is deep Inner Party GOP, so if he wants the nomination, he'll get it. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #27
Polls mean nothing at this point Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #29
+1 Dawson Leery Dec 2014 #35
The first or latest cliwn out of the car garners notice, but the rubes are fickle. n/t Orsino Dec 2014 #64
I've been saying this on DU ever since bush the chimp was president. loudsue Dec 2014 #32
Our paper did a poll last week "Who would you vote for if it was a Bush doc03 Dec 2014 #37
Yup... SoapBox Dec 2014 #41
Like I said a few weeks ago... Gumboot Dec 2014 #40
Although it is still early, I loath the possibility that it will be Clinton vs. Bush davidpdx Dec 2014 #42
If you want to beat him... roamer65 Dec 2014 #43
The Republican Party admires SamKnause Dec 2014 #45
Can someone explain to me how the hell Christie is still in the top tier bigdarryl Dec 2014 #47
Dynasty. Feral Child Dec 2014 #48
MORONS! Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2014 #49
This is the easy part, Jeb. oldandhappy Dec 2014 #51
Our biggest negative is having the White House 8 years yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #58
I don't think that Jebby is LibertyLover Dec 2014 #60
supported by hypocrites? reddread Dec 2014 #61
 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
4. I've had enough Bushies to last about 5 lifetimes
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 05:14 PM
Dec 2014

Jebbie still has to run the wingnut primary gauntlet in South Carolina, where its not going to be easy.

Auggie

(33,117 posts)
5. So have I. They'll lie, cheat, steal and spend their way to victory. The 1% wants it so badly.
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 05:30 PM
Dec 2014

All they have to do is win Ohio and Florida. Easy.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
56. Live free or Diebold!
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 12:40 PM
Dec 2014
The ghosts of 2004 election irregularities

Diebold was at the center of Ohio’s 2004 election debacle, much of this captured in an article by Free Press Senior Editor Harvey Wasserman and this author, entitled, “Diebold’s Political Machine.” Walden "Wally" O'Dell, chairman of the board and chief executive of Diebold, was a long-time funder of Republican candidates. In September 2003, he held a packed $1,000-per-head GOP fundraiser at his 10,800-square-foot mansion Cotswold Manor in Upper Arlington, Ohio. He was feted as a guest at then-President George W. Bush's Texas ranch, joining a cadre of “Pioneers and Rangers” who pledged to raise more than $100,000 for the Bush reelection campaign.

Most memorably, in 2003 O'Dell penned a letter pledging his commitment “to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the President.” O'Dell defended his actions, telling the Cleveland Plain Dealer “I'm not doing anything wrong or complicated.” But he also promised to lower his political profile and “try to be more sensitive.” But the Diebold boss' partisan cards were squarely on the table.

Prior to the 2004 election, Blackwell tried to award a $100 million unbid contract to Diebold for electronic voting machines. A storm of public outrage and a series of lawsuits forced him to cancel the deal. But a substantial percentage of Ohio's 2004 votes were counted by Diebold software and Diebold Opti-scan machines which frequently malfunctioned in the Democratic stronghold of Toledo. It was revealed in 2006 that Blackwell owned Diebold stock.

Diebold's GEMS election software was used in about half of Ohio counties in the 2004 election. Because of Blackwell's effort, 41 counties also used Diebold machines in Ohio's highly dubious 2005 election.

Also in the Ohio 2004 election, a whistleblower leaked documents revealing that Diebold had allegedly used illegal, uncertified hardware and software during California election.

http://columbusfreepress.com/article/diebold-indicted-its-spectre-still-haunts-ohio-elections


Yep..."we'll get whoever the vote 'tabulators' want."
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
11. Nope. The right WILL NOT vote for him.
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 05:42 PM
Dec 2014

And when they lose they'll blame it on not having a candidate who is "conservative enough". Oh, how I wish they would run Ted Cruz. Since he's a "true" conservative, when he lost by 10+, what would be the excuse then? "The liberals stole the election!!" Either that or having to admit the bulk of the country doesnt WANT THAT TYPE.

 

lobodons

(1,290 posts)
12. Scary thought
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 05:55 PM
Dec 2014

A scary thought if they ran Cruz would be a Nadar type candidate would run as Independant because they would see Hillary as too DINO and or close to Wall Street and Cruz would win just like in 2000. SCARY thought!!

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
13. wingnuts will probably ask for Scott Walker type on the ticket so they wont stay home in Nov 2016
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 06:06 PM
Dec 2014

just like last time, the crazy Ted Cruz/ Bachmann base is not gonna like having to kow tow to Jebbbie

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
20. They will vote, overwhelmingly for him...
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 06:50 PM
Dec 2014

1. He will be the voice of sanity and "moderation."

2. America will not elect another Clinton...nor a woman (sorry, women).

If we Dems do not get a solid, calm, cool, collected male with (what appears to be) a common sense voice...it will be a landslide for another (fucking) Bush.

The Dem would also need a spine and "brass"...we a probably lacking a candidate that has both.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
21. Go visit a few of the right wing websites;
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 07:03 PM
Dec 2014

or read the comments after any article about Jeb being the favorite. Hell, read the comments after the article in the OP!!! They stayed home for Romney too. Thats the difference between them and the left. A lot of folks here would rather Hillary NOT be the candidate, but if she IS the huge majority WILL vote for her. The right will stick out their bottom lip and sit home bitching.
Yes, all in my opinion of course. But Obama got several million fewer votes in '12 than in 08 and he MAY have been beaten if the right had been enthused about their supposed "RINO"

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
28. so what?
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 09:02 PM
Dec 2014

they have expertise in taking that office without winning an election.
wake up America.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
33. Close doesn't matter when your side programs the central tabulators to win an election.
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 10:07 PM
Dec 2014

There are no fair elections in the usa anymore.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
34. If that was the case we wouldnt have two-term Pres Obama!
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 10:19 PM
Dec 2014

Remember, Obama got millions fewer votes in 12 than in 08; if everything was rigged, he wouldve lost. Sure, there were problems, but there were also problems with R votes registering as D votes. Likely a screen calibration issue. Doesnt mean we shouldnt insist on paper trails for machines though
Dont give them more credit than they actually deserve!

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
36. was there a Bush running? you think they want someone else in their way?
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 10:51 PM
Dec 2014

Im sure we will have plenty of new techniques to ruminate upon after the next election.
elections were stolen long before computers were around.
optimism will only get you so far.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
38. And the left WILL NOT vote for Clinton
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:56 PM
Dec 2014

So if they both win their Party's primaries, someone has to win. Even a super-strong Independent isn't going to win. The most in the last 100+ years was Perot in 1992 with 19%.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
44. Using DU as a barometer, most WILL vote for her
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 01:07 AM
Dec 2014

I've read multiple threads about other candidates, and when push comes to shove, most here say they would still rather have Hillary than whoever the GOP candidate would be. And I think DU is to the left of most of the Dem party, so I think the huge majority of Dems would vote for her even if they preferred someone else.
But you bring up an interesting point; Perot was an oddball and got 19%. What if there WAS and Independent candidate who was a popular well known, man/woman? It could be interesting.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
54. self selected, or whinnied down liberal participants arent the swing block
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 12:13 PM
Dec 2014

and HRC will not get the conservative vote, no matter how much she deserves it.
she has so much baggage, best call a cartage firm.
she is a loss waiting to happen.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
55. the real swing bloc is EXACTLY who we NEED.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 12:15 PM
Dec 2014

voters who wont come out for crooks and murderers that leave them to live in the third world America.
we have that one chance to prevail, and HRC will not be the ticket to ride.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
62. "better call a cartage firm" .. now THATS funny stuff
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 11:20 PM
Dec 2014

But Clinton also has a crew to squash whatever comes up. Look how they dealt with Bill's "women problem". There may have been a right-wing conspiracy, but I believe a LOT of those women told the truth. Their people diverted everyone with a shiny object and that was that.
But I do believe she is her own biggest enemy. She doesnt talk "off the cuff" very well at all.

NYC Liberal

(20,453 posts)
63. Hillary Clinton beats every Republican contender by a good margin.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 11:38 PM
Dec 2014

She is an extremely strong candidate who has been vetted many times over. There's nothing new. No shocking surprises to pull out in 2016. The public likes her, and Democrats like her.

DonCoquixote

(13,955 posts)
3. In other words
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 05:11 PM
Dec 2014

break out the puke barrels as two snakes try to convince wall street they can serve us to them on a platter better, and where a bunch of relatives on either side fight for the fight to grin and say "we are back in power."

TheCowsCameHome

(40,270 posts)
19. He lost, like most mittens I had as a kid.
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 06:50 PM
Dec 2014

Then Mom sewed a cord between them and called them "idiot mittens"

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
8. Of course he is..republicans are sheep.
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 05:38 PM
Dec 2014

Same thing happened in 2012. Whoever was being talked about in the news was the front-runner.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
39. Remember who our front-runner is
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:58 PM
Dec 2014

Unfortunately, it works both ways. She's in the news and sheep want her too. I wish we had someone else.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
46. Not really. Rand Paul could announce next week and he would be the front-runner.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:24 AM
Dec 2014

And then Romney could enter the race the week after that and he would be the front-runner.

Democrats are sheep, but it's much harder to get them to look at the new toy in the window. Republicans, not so much.

The following 2012 GOP primary chart from the link below says it all.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

First it was Romney,
then Bachmann got a bump,
then Perry took the lead,
then Cain,
then Gingrich,
then Romney again,
then Gingrich,
then Santorum,
and then finally Romney.

Each took the lead after getting positive press at one particular point in that race.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
50. one of these things is not like the other
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 11:48 AM
Dec 2014

maybe in 8 years the math and concomitant logic will reach high school level among armchair analysts.
but really, everything we need to know we could have learned from Sesame Street.

 

chickenfairy

(33 posts)
14. Not saying much
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 06:13 PM
Dec 2014

In that bunch of clowns but I'm afraid he IS the next president. Hillary can't beat him.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
17. Sure, he is the only "sane" one on the list.
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 06:32 PM
Dec 2014

It's a "slam dunk" to use repugnican verbiage.

C Moon

(13,620 posts)
18. More murky sleaziness from a GOP candidate (see L.A. Times article)
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 06:43 PM
Dec 2014

Jeb Bush eases out of some businesses, such as firm helped by Obamacare

When Jeb Bush completed two terms as governor of Florida in 2007, he reported his net worth at $1.3 million, about $700,000 less than when he took office.

Today, nearly eight years later, he is a wealthier man. He has plunged into business and entrepreneurial ventures involving consulting, the paid lecture circuit and energy development. He has developed real estate, advised international investment banks and joined high-paying corporate boards.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-jeb-bush-money-20141225-story.html#page=1a

They just can't seem to keep their hands clean of this kind of sleaziness.

kacekwl

(9,123 posts)
23. It has been shown that a Bush can occupy ...
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 07:38 PM
Dec 2014

the White House without actually winning the vote so why not do it again.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
24. No. 7 on most unpopular with conservative websites
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 07:56 PM
Dec 2014

Most Unpopular (Greatly dislike + dislike votes)

20) Arnold Schwarzenegger (30)
19) Ron Paul (31)
17) Christine O’Donnell (32)
17) Mike Huckabee (32)
15) Mitch McConnell (33)
15) David Frum (33)
11) Donald Trump (34)
11) Joe Scarborough (34)
11) Colin Powell (34)
11) Dick Morris (34)
10) Bill O’Reilly (35)
9) Peter King (35)
8) Chris Christie (36)
7) Jeb Bush (37)
6) John Boehner (39)
5) Alex Jones (41)
4) Karl Rove (43)
3) Lindsey Graham (43)
2) John McCain (45)
1) Megan McCain (55)

http://rightwingnews.com/john-hawkins/7th-annual-poll-conservative-websites-admired-people-right/

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
25. How quaint! Bush vs Clinton just for old times sake!
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 08:41 PM
Dec 2014

And the mindless morons will lap it up and claim it is "democracy" ...

Whoop-de-fucking-doo.

True Blue Door

(2,969 posts)
27. Jeb is deep Inner Party GOP, so if he wants the nomination, he'll get it.
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 08:52 PM
Dec 2014

Romney is only on the inner edge of the Outer Party - he's filthy rich, but he doesn't have the level of institutional connections as the Bush family.

FYI, the "Inner Party GOP" refers to the small, insular cabal of individuals and dynasties who the Republican Party exists exclusively to serve at all costs. And I mean all costs - treason, war, torture, murder, election rigging, etc.

If an Inner Party Republican runs and we field anyone other than our absolute best candidate on every front - both campaign competence and party base enthusiasm - defeat would be our most likely outcome.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
29. Polls mean nothing at this point
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 09:06 PM
Dec 2014

If I were to bet on who the Republican nominee will be I would bet on Scott Walker. The guy is an awful governor and a complete asshole but both the establishment and the Teabaggers love him. He has made it pretty obvious that he is going to run and you can bet the Koch Brothers will pump money into his campaign the moment he announces.

Dawson Leery

(19,564 posts)
35. +1
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 10:24 PM
Dec 2014

The GOP needs a new face. Walker is not nationally known so the GOP powerbrokers can mold him into an acceptable national figure.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
32. I've been saying this on DU ever since bush the chimp was president.
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 10:04 PM
Dec 2014

Jeb Bush is going to run, and the republicans/BUSH FAMILY MAFIA WILL STEAL ANOTHER ELECTION. Just ask the house of saud who will be supporting it all the way.

doc03

(39,065 posts)
37. Our paper did a poll last week "Who would you vote for if it was a Bush
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:03 PM
Dec 2014

Clinton race in 2016. Belive it or not Bush got 68% and Clinton 32%. How on earth could people ever consider another Bush?

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
41. Yup...
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 12:12 AM
Dec 2014

As I previously posted...Jebbie will be the sane one out of the lot. He's also been keeping a VERY low public profile over the last x years.

Meanwhile, Clinton has been pretty much in the public vision for years and not all of it has been favorable.

PukeBagger media including the so called mainstream will endlessly blather any lies that the Pukes want out there with endless BENGHAZI and Whitewater talking points.

Gumboot

(531 posts)
40. Like I said a few weeks ago...
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:59 PM
Dec 2014
"It'll all be fixed in the primaries. Any disruptive populists will be weeded out, and we'll be guaranteed another Bush presidency - whether that comes courtesy of Jeb or Hillary."

What Wall Street wants, Wall Street will get... by hook or by crook.

And to quote Greg Palast: "They'll get the gold mine, we'll get the shaft."



davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
42. Although it is still early, I loath the possibility that it will be Clinton vs. Bush
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 12:16 AM
Dec 2014

There is no chance in hell that big money will be reined in before the election of the next president. While we get to vote for a president, but big business will end up buying the next president.

roamer65

(37,939 posts)
43. If you want to beat him...
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 12:22 AM
Dec 2014

you will have to drill it into people's heads he is Dimwit's brother. Over and over and over again, remind people of the failure of the last time a member of the Bu$h crime family was in office.

SamKnause

(14,887 posts)
45. The Republican Party admires
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:24 AM
Dec 2014

crooks, cons, shysters and liars.

You have to be an excellent liar to get the masses to vote against their best interests.

That is why they do their best to keep all facts hidden.

Their PROVEN failed economic policies are still be touted !!!!!!!

Decades of research and data gathered that has proven time and time again the Republicans do not know anything about a budget or finances.

How do they get away with this in a sane world ???????



 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
47. Can someone explain to me how the hell Christie is still in the top tier
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:30 AM
Dec 2014

Of the rethug nomination I live in Jersey his poll numbers are in the tank people in the state are sick of his bullying tactics and the state is in a complete MESS all around

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
51. This is the easy part, Jeb.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 11:52 AM
Dec 2014

Remember Perry! He entered the race at the top spot. May you be blessed with the same rapid fall.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
58. Our biggest negative is having the White House 8 years
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 01:06 PM
Dec 2014

Sounds crazy but the country typically switches party for President every 8 years.

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
60. I don't think that Jebby is
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:18 PM
Dec 2014

religious enough for the crazy, conservative Christians who basically control the GOP these days. I mean he's married to someone who is not only possibly Catholic, but um, of the Latina persuasion. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, you know what I mean. Sure he tried to be all prayerful and stuff with the Terry Schiavo matter but he hasn't exactly been hitting the megachurches and their meetings on any sort of a regular basis. I think if he does decide to get into the 2016 race he may find that his popularity is not exactly as hyped.

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