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1step

(380 posts)
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 12:20 PM Jan 2015

Rabbi Calls for Jewish Leaders to Defend Dershowitz Against Rape Claim

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Source: Mediaite

by Evan McMurry | 8:04 am, January 6th, 2015

Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, a prolific political and cultural commentator who appears sporadically on cable news, wrote an op-ed in the New York Observer Tuesday morning calling on Jews everywhere to defend attorney Alan Dershowitz, who was accused of sexual assault in a recent civil suit against billionaire investor Jeffrey Epstein.

Boteach, as did Dershowitz himself, likened the accusation to the many scurrilous defamations the Jews have historically suffered, ranging from accusations of blood libel to Palestinian genocide, and added that Dershowitz has already been tested by the scores of death threats he receives for his defense of Israel. He called upon Jews to defend Dershowitz as if from these attacks.

“Where are the Jewish leaders to rise to Mr. Dershowitz’s defense?” Boteach asked. “I would like to believe that, at the very least, what Alan Dershowitz deserves is the gratitude of his community. And that means that you stand up for a man when he is down, especially when not a shred of evidence has been brought against him.”

“I have always wondered at the Jewish community in times of scandal,” he added. “We run from it like the plague.”

Boteach defended the attorney from the charges, despite the fact that “there is no way any of us can know if any of this is true.”

Read more: http://www.mediaite.com/online/rabbi-calls-for-jewish-leaders-to-defend-dershowitz-against-rape-claim/



That last line floors me: Hey, i don't know if he's guilty, but let's defend him anyway. WTF???
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Rabbi Calls for Jewish Leaders to Defend Dershowitz Against Rape Claim (Original Post) 1step Jan 2015 OP
are they going to defend prince andrew as well? niyad Jan 2015 #1
That is a job for the Anglicans cosmicone Jan 2015 #3
Dershowitz can defend himself, thank you (nt) question everything Jan 2015 #2
You might want to edit the link - thanks azurnoir Jan 2015 #4
Done 1step Jan 2015 #6
A 'prejudiced' comment from me: elleng Jan 2015 #5
“We run from it like the plague.” Who doesn't? R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #7
Dershowitz can afford to defend himself. He probably has friends close enough to 'the charge' to Sunlei Jan 2015 #8
It's Not Just Silly, It's Harmful 1step Jan 2015 #9
It is harmful I agree. The anti semitic, hater-idiots are always hard at 'work' Sunlei Jan 2015 #10
I'm no fan of Dershowitz nichomachus Jan 2015 #11
Naive billhicks76 Jan 2015 #15
Far from naive nichomachus Jan 2015 #17
which is more likely, that someone whose other allegations have been proven true is flinging poo... yurbud Jan 2015 #23
So then, according to him, Jews can do no wrong, ever? bigworld Jan 2015 #12
Is mediaite a legit site? Ash_F Jan 2015 #13
If SPLC lists that website, it's a websHIte. alp227 Jan 2015 #20
Boteach is a self-promoting idiot starroute Jan 2015 #14
Taking Cues From Bill Cosby billhicks76 Jan 2015 #16
A less qualified advocate for Deshowitz I can not imagine Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #18
From that article... Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #19
SPLC has an article about "Daily Stormer". Of course Stormer, Stormfront, whatsdadiffrunce? alp227 Jan 2015 #21
Boteach's original article. alp227 Jan 2015 #22
Locking. Sissyk Jan 2015 #24

niyad

(113,079 posts)
1. are they going to defend prince andrew as well?
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 12:24 PM
Jan 2015
 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
3. That is a job for the Anglicans
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 12:36 PM
Jan 2015

Where is that Archbishop of Canterbury?

question everything

(47,440 posts)
2. Dershowitz can defend himself, thank you (nt)
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 12:26 PM
Jan 2015

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
4. You might want to edit the link - thanks
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 12:41 PM
Jan 2015
 

1step

(380 posts)
6. Done
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 12:46 PM
Jan 2015

Thanks for pointing out the error!

elleng

(130,763 posts)
5. A 'prejudiced' comment from me:
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 12:43 PM
Jan 2015

this Boteach guy is pretty foolish (a very nice way to put it,) and dershowitz is an idiot. Epstein is a horrible person. Let us NOT jump to defend Members of the Tribe JUST because we are 'related.'

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
7. “We run from it like the plague.” Who doesn't?
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 12:58 PM
Jan 2015

Well, I'm sure the Dersh will find an adequate army of lawyers to defend him.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
8. Dershowitz can afford to defend himself. He probably has friends close enough to 'the charge' to
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 01:00 PM
Jan 2015

provide real evidence.

imo opinion it's really silly for a Rabbi, (or anyone)to call for and expect a "public outcry Court defense" just because one shares the same religion or race.

 

1step

(380 posts)
9. It's Not Just Silly, It's Harmful
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 01:07 PM
Jan 2015

It plays right into the stereotype that "they" are all in collusion. After that, it's just a few short steps to the Massive Jewish/Zionist Conspiracy bullshit.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
10. It is harmful I agree. The anti semitic, hater-idiots are always hard at 'work'
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 01:12 PM
Jan 2015

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
11. I'm no fan of Dershowitz
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 02:43 PM
Jan 2015

He's a jerk.

But this charge just sounds idiotic. He's a jerk, but a very smart jerk. I find it hard to believe he would ever put himself in that position. This just sounds like the accuser is flinging poo in every direction.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
15. Naive
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 03:56 PM
Jan 2015

Power corrupts and sex is many an Achilles heal. These people get away with so much their hubris is what betrays them. It's actually way way worse than you think.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
17. Far from naive
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 04:07 PM
Jan 2015

I know all about the hubris of power. It just sounds like the accuser is flinging poo in all directions and pulling names out of thin air.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
23. which is more likely, that someone whose other allegations have been proven true is flinging poo...
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 05:39 PM
Jan 2015

or those with the money and power to run and international sex slave ring would use that to gain leverage over otherwise powerful people?

Money can buy you love, but love is still fickle.

Fear of your dirty laundry being exposed or going to prison is a more faithful motivator.

bigworld

(1,807 posts)
12. So then, according to him, Jews can do no wrong, ever?
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 02:51 PM
Jan 2015

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
13. Is mediaite a legit site?
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 03:05 PM
Jan 2015

Because the story in the OP contains a link to another website called The Daily Stormer, which is very disturbing.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
14. Boteach is a self-promoting idiot
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 03:12 PM
Jan 2015
http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/routine-emergencies/.premium-1.591293

Beyond the sex and relationship talk, Boteach never missed an opportunity to get his name in the headlines by rubbing shoulders with celebrities. He told The Guardian "God gave 10 commandments at Sinai, and the 11th commandment, which they expunged but which has come down orally, is 'Thou shalt do anything for publicity and recognition'."

As an early profile related, Boteach argued about pornography with Penthouse publisher Larry Flynt, fixed up Roseanne Barr’s daughter with a nice Jewish boy, and befriended Deepak Chopra. More recently, he escorted TV medical guru Dr. Oz on a trip to Israel. Most famous, of course, was his stint as Michael Jackson’s “spiritual adviser.”

Two years ago, he attempted to parlay his celebrity into a political career, taking a detour into politics, getting the Republican nomination for a congressional seat in New Jersey, but ultimately losing the election, despite a hefty bankroll from supporter Sheldon Adelson - with whom he recently appeared on a political panel. . . .

Whether it’s to cover his campaign debt or just pay the rent, Boteach decided to get back to basics this year and offer a spiced up version of his old shtick to a new generation of what he clearly views as desperate housewives. His new book is titled "Kosher Lust: Love Is Not the Answer," in which he makes the pitch that “it is not love, but lust that is the glue of a marriage.”
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
16. Taking Cues From Bill Cosby
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 03:58 PM
Jan 2015

To understand our country people need to study Roman Decadence and the connection between inner and outer decay that brought them down.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
18. A less qualified advocate for Deshowitz I can not imagine
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 04:44 PM
Jan 2015

Botheach is infamous in some circles for his statements about lust- "lust is the pinnacle of holiness" and "if you put love and lust together, love stands no chance."

Behind the Aegis

(53,921 posts)
19. From that article...
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 05:01 PM
Jan 2015
Dershowitz has claimed that since the accusation he was “beginning to get all kinds of emails [from] anti-Israel and anti-Semitic groups, the most recent one saying ‘see Jews have always been in charge of the sex trade.’”


The italicized phrase is a link in the article to a site called "The Daily Stormer." Here is the description of the photo of Shmuley Boteachat the site: The sick rodent is claiming that he is “defending certain values” at the moment. If he is not successful, the honored Jewish tradition of raping White Goyim girls may perish from the Earth.

The title of the article? Another Shoah: Jew Alan Dershowitz Cries “Anti-Semitism” Over Sex Slave Accusations

This is what was linked to in the article that is now on DU!

alp227

(32,006 posts)
21. SPLC has an article about "Daily Stormer". Of course Stormer, Stormfront, whatsdadiffrunce?
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 05:08 PM
Jan 2015

Sissyk

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24. Locking.
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 05:43 PM
Jan 2015

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