Donald Trump sues 'malicious' Palm Beach airport for $100 million

[Roland99]

Source: CNN Money

Donald Trump has sued Palm Beach County in Florida for $100 million and accused the county-run airport of deliberately sending air traffic over his historic mansion and private club.

Trump specifically called out the local airport director Bruce Pelly for diverting all departing flights over the Mar-a-Lago mansion, to seek revenge over a 20-year-old lawsuit.

"The county's and Bruce Pelly's efforts in this regard are both deliberate and malicious, and motivated by personal animosity towards Donald Trump," reads the lawsuit, which was filed in Palm Beach County Court on Jan. 6.

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The lawsuit claims the mansion is "by far and away the most important historical structure in Palm Beach and one of the most important in Florida and, indeed, the United States."

Read more: http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/13/luxury/trump-palm-beach-lawsuit/index.html

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BTW, notice how the "club" is in direct line with one of the runways!



And that last bit...most important historical structure....??

lol!

What an ego!

[hobbit709]

1. The Donald can go fuck himself.

[olegramps]

18. I was in Palm Beach area over the holidays to visit my son, daughter-in-law and grandchildren.

We drove down the street where his mansion is located. The homes are gigantic. I found them to be for the most part gaudy ostentatious displays of wealth. Trump's home is the most atrocious ridiculous hodgepodge group of structures on the coast. Although It must be worth hundreds of millions, I can't imagine anyone actually living there. I suppose that it is used to entertain and impress his important guests. The upkeep must amount to a small fortune. I have always wondered how he could have gone bankrupt several times yet have so much wealth. I can only suppose that the wealthy have means to protect their wealth unlike working class people who are truly wiped out financially often as the result of medical expenses.

His ego is revolting. If he thinks that this structure is the most important home in the United States he only reveals his total lack of any appreciation for architecture.

[hobbit709]

19. He files bankruptcy on his business ventures, not personal.

since they're not part of his personal setup, he gets to keep the money he made off his corporations before they went belly up.

[titaniumsalute]

21. He lives part of the year upstairs in the mansion

I have worked at Mar-a-Lago a number of times. I'd be willing to almost guarantee he can't hear the jets inside of the house which is made of stone/brick. Most of the place is used to rent out for private events. They also have a member only club where you can go to hang out and eat lunch with other rich assholes.

[olegramps]

59. I wondered about all the tents on the lawn. Looked kind of tacky.

[titaniumsalute]

64. Yeah

They host lots of weddings, corporate events, galas, etc. using tents.

[Contrary1]

2. "Most important historical structure" only when Trump is there, of course.

What a gigantic arsehole he is.

[titaniumsalute]

23. I'd be willing to bet that other curators would love to debate that point in Florida

People at the Viscaya Museum in Miami, the Flagler Museum in Palm Beach, pretty much anywhere downtown St. Augustine, Hemingways house in Key West, the "Little White House" owned by President Truman in Key West, etc.

[dhill926]

35. exactly......

[Hassin Bin Sober]

3. Ha ha!

[jmowreader]

4. What I would write

1. Plaintiff contends that Defendant maliciously routes aircraft over his historic mansion.

2. Defendant runs an airport which began operations in 1936. Plaintiff is well aware of the location of said airport as he operates his personal aircraft from it.

3. Defendant's airport's main runway is clearly defined on all maps, notices to airmen, and other navigational aids.

4. Plaintiff is reputed to have previously engaged in real estate transactions. Incumbent upon real estate buyers is the duty to perform due diligence.

5. In short, if Donald Trump, one of the most famous real estate developers in America, is so stupid he didn't notice the main runway of Defendant's airport is pointed straight at his house, there's not a hell of a lot we can do for him.

6. Case is dismissed with prejudice.

[monmouth4]

12. When I fly out of PBIA on my way to Jersey, I literally smile as we fly over Mar-A-Lago....n/t

[titaniumsalute]

25. The east-west runways

You can either take off to the east OR the west. Period. And second, that is dictated by wind direction. Planes take off into the wind. Always. The wind typically comes from the east in South Florida there planes take off to the east. This the planes fly over Palm Beach. He's such an asshole.

[SoapBox]

5. Clueless, loser ASSHOLE,

Fuck off.

[ca3799]

6. The resort was built at the end of the runway!

Hello? According to the map, the resort is at the end of the runway. Any normal person should reasonably expect to see airplanes at the ends of runways.

[titaniumsalute]

26. Actually it wasnt

The resort was build before the airport. AND it isn't at the end of a runway. The airport is about 2.6 miles away. That's a lot of time for a plane to gain altitude before flying over Palm Beach. By the way...the same is true for Ft. Lauderdale and Miami airports. They all take off to the east.

[The CCC]

39. Actually it wasn't.

The airport was built in 1936. Donald Trump was born in 1946.

[titaniumsalute]

41. Umm Mar-A-Lago was built in 1927. Trump bough it in 1985.

[Blue_Tires]

42. But Trump hasn't owned it all that time

And he knew there was a goddamned airport there before he bought the place...In fact, attorneys for the county will probably argue that the proximity to an airport allowed Trump to buy the place at place far below true market value...

And just because MIA and FLL take off east, it doesn't mean that everyone can...Air traffic routing is based on a bunch of factors and airspace limitations...

FWIW, Trump didn't seem to have any problem flying his rickety, loud-assed B727 everywhere back when he owned it...

[titaniumsalute]

46. Planes take off into the wind...or as close as they can get into the wind

I know...I'm a pilot. You take off generally in the direction of the wind. The airport controllers cant change the runway direction nor can they change the wind direction. Period. Trump will lose this one.

Of course The Donald has owned it since 1927. But the poster said the place was built at the end of a runway. It was built before the runway.

Has Trump sued NYC for all the noise from horns around Central Park? Surprised he hasn't tried to close 59th St.

[Blue_Tires]

48. Holy damn...I found out the real reason Trump is pissed off, and it's perfectly hilarious:

http://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/1501/00449ivnka.pdf


http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6282267/

[titaniumsalute]

50. OH...priceless...

[Roland99]

57. BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

[Orsino]

65. And there's no bigger source of wind available. n/t

[yellowcanine]

58. Exactly. Trump bought it AFTER jets were using the current runways.

Presumably the price he paid reflected the annoyance of being in the flight path of jet planes. Trump is an asswipe.

[trusty elf]

7. There'll be hell toupée!

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[Roland99]

8. ...

[sarge43]

20. That thing that nests on his head has started to eat his brain {sic} n/t

[Kennah]

63. Fetch me my broadsword and another cold one. I can knock that thing off the top.

[ReRe]

9. Who got there first?

... the airport or Donald Trump? The judge will 86 this one. IMHO.

I can't think of a person with a bigger ego than DT.

[silvershadow]

10. I highly doubt Trump's assertion is true, but

if I were the director of the airport it probably would be.

[Enrique]

11. is it my imagination

or does Donald Trump sue a lot of people?

[Roland99]

13. Trying any way to recover money from his multiple bankruptcies

[Blue_Tires]

44. and trying to get in the news spotlight...

[FlaGranny]

14. If you are interested:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-A-Lago

Mar A Lago is an historical structure, but through no fault of Donald Trump.

[Warpy]

56. Anything built in the 1920s is claimed as an historical structure there

especially if it has gingerbread trim and is in a tourist location. Funny that they didn't feel the same way about some of the art deco hotels in Miami Beach. Too many of those saw the wrecking ball and were replaced by glitzy time share condos.

I vaguely remember Mar-A-Lago in the 1950s, one of my mother's "let's see how the other half lives" ideas. I'd hate to see what Trump has done to it, he's never been known for taste.

[FlaGranny]

60. True.

I remember those art deco buildings in Miami Beach. Haven't been there in many years. Are they all gone?

I think Mar-A-Lago was considered special because of Marjorie Merriweather Post - similar to the Flagler Museum, both built by extremely wealthy, well known people.

I've never been impressed by wealthy people, but they were responsible for some beautiful architecture.

[Warpy]

62. They were also responsible for some that was hilariously bad

A tour of the Newport "cottages" is quite an experience in class arrogance and cultural inferiority at the same time.

Most of the cottages on the tour have at least one, and usually several, rooms that were dismantled from great houses in Europe and reassembled here, presumably so the new owners could impress the titled former owners with them. The enormous piles of masonry usually had one or two splendid spaces designed by architects then a hodgepodge of reassembled rooms, often gloomy ones so you know why the decadent aristocracy in Europe parted with them.

It was new money social climbing at its gaudiest and most futile.

I haven't been to Miami Beach in many years, either, but I imagine a few of the art deco structures were saved, only to be dwarfed and kept in perpetual shadow by high rise monstrosities.

[Sunlei]

15. The owner willed her property to the US Gov. (we the people) and Trump managed to buy it from Gov.

for only 10 million dollars? (in 85)

Who in our Gov. gave Trump such a sweet deal on property that was intended by a persons will to become USA Gov. property?

Upon her death in 1973 Marjorie Post willed the 17-acre (69,000 m2) estate to the U.S. Government as a retreat for Presidents and visiting foreign dignitaries.

[SnowCritter]

22. Let's see

If he bought it in '85 that means that someone in the Reagan administration OK'd the deal.

Why am I not surprised?

[Sunlei]

28. Someone in Gov. authorized that sale to a private citizen.

Bet it wasn't even properly listed in the Gov. property sales listings. Properties our Gov.sells are supposed to be listed in public.

That property could have been converted for public use or sold properly for what it was really worth.

[csziggy]

32. I suspect the maintenance was outrageous

And it wasn't sold by the government, though the timing of giving it to the Post Foundation and then the sale to Trump is suspicious.

In January 1969, The Department of the Interior designated the estate as “The Mar-a-Lago National Historic Site”. The property was placed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1972 by an Act of Congress. Until her death in 1973, Mrs. Post used the estate as a haven for many notable dignitaries. After her death, the estate was transferred by her will to the Federal Government for use as a diplomatic/presidential retreat. Ten years later, due to maintenance and security concerns, the government conferred title to the Post Foundation. In 1985, Donald J. Trump purchased the property from the Post Foundation and used the estate as a private residence until 1995. In April of 1995, Mar-a-Lago became established as The Mar-a-Lago Club.
http://www.maralagoclub.com/Default.aspx?p=DynamicModule&pageid=296077&ssid=177999&vnf=1

[Sunlei]

37. The Gov. gives (at no cost) property to Foundations but they aren't supposed to flip it to Trump!

Trump even used it as a personal home, lol.

[Sunlei]

40. was DOI was in on the deal?, Gave gov property to a 'charity' Foundation and then 'sold it' to Trump

[gregcrawford]

24. You can bet that whoever it was is a Republican!

[Sunlei]

61. right at the same time frame Jeb Bush was in florida 'working' real estate,

wealth building, & connecting to Floridas' state gov.

[Vinca]

16. Makes a person want to fly out of Palm Beach just to bug Trump.

[titaniumsalute]

27. I do all the time!!

[dembotoz]

17. folks move next to an airport and are SHOCKED when planes take off and land

who woulda thought

[RKP5637]

29. Doesn't his hair act as some sort of sound barrier?

[Paper Roses]

30. This makes me sick. The 'Donald' exemplifies some of what is wring with America.

Big money, big ego, big attitude.

[chrisa]

31. He wants attention, as always.

This is another attempt to get his name in the news so that people don't forget it (and his reality show).

[benld74]

33. He's upset since his hair gets noticed more than him

[sarge43]

36. It's difficult not to notice that 300 car train wreck

Looking at it is the equivalent of staring into the sun.

[truthisfreedom]

34. He still has a realty show?

(Not misspelled.)

[christx30]

38. The airport should only allow

STOVL aircraft to take off and land there. It's very sad that someone like Donald Trump should have to deal with the same thing as millions of Americans that live near airports deal with every day. It's a famous historical site, people! The UN should enshrine it! Wrap it in bubble wrap and protect it from sound!


The one word that I haven't seen in this so far thread is 'delusional'.
To be fair, I haven't seen the word 'giraffe' either.

[Grins]

43. I used to do a lot of flying in Florida...

...and most airports on the Atlantic side of the state are oriented east-west because - that's where the prevailing winds come from! Most often, off the ocean.

Departures are into wind, so taking off on a runway 6 (Daytona), 8 or 9 (MIA), or 10 (PBI) is kinda the rule in east Florida.

Airports are not laid out according to some local whim or malice. There are practical reasons why they do what they have to do, and the state aeronautic boards and federal government have a full say in all of it.

It can change, of course, if there is a reason. Example: After 9/11 flying near a nuclear facility became a no-no.

So if we could just get Florida power to put a nuclear plant in right next to Trump, the airport will be forced to make his changes. Win-Win!

[MisterP]

45. *bing bong* "ladies and gentlemen, we will be making a brief detour

and buzz Donald Trump: this will be a steep dive, which will be quite safe and controlled but will require that everyone assume the brace position. If there are any objections you may hit the call button and we will fly our scheduled route"

nobody ever presses the call buttons

and I'm a Marjorie Merriweather Post fan (she bought all the Faberge eggs from Molotov!), so here's the deets:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-A-Lago

oo, and it's actually 10 years older than KPBI (ditto Newport Beach/KSNA)

"Trump had the property renovated, with 58 bedrooms, 33 bathrooms, a 29-foot (8.8 m)-long pietra dura marble top dining table, 12 fireplaces, and three bomb shelters"

*sigh*

[IcyPeas]

47. Publicity. /nt

[wheniwasincongress]

49. Does his toupee fall off

when the planes fly near?

[titaniumsalute]

51. Hey check this out...Trump's 757 flying over his own house...

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N757AF/history/20150104/2130Z/KPBI/KLGA

The green line is the path he took after departing PBI to the east. What a fucking hypocrite.

[easychoice]

52. Poor Donald such a huge target

I kinda hoped his hair got stuck in a baggage conveyor or something a little jucier.
Run for President Don,that'll fix it.

[SummerSnow]

53. wait, didn't he have people who went to Hawaii in search of the birth certificate? .lol

[herding cats]

54. Someone should sue Trump for the noise pollution coming out of his mouth.

It's way worse on the ears than the sound of jets taking off.

[muntrv]

55. In the history of this mansion, Trump is the biggest douchebag to occupy it.