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Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 11:18 AM Jan 2015

Charlie Hebdo founder accused murdered editor of 'dragging team to their deaths'

Source: Evening Standard

Charlie Hebdo founder accused murdered editor of 'dragging team to their deaths'
Robin de Peyer
Published: 15 January 2015
Updated: 14:38, 15 January 2015

The murdered editor of Charlie Hebdo dragged his journalists to their deaths by mocking Islam, one of the magazine's founders has said.

Henri Roussel, 80, accused Stéphane Charbonnier - known as Charb - of being "pig-headed" in publishing cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad.

The satirical magazine's mockery of Islam culminated in last week's terror attacks, in which 10 of its staff and two police officers were killed by extremists.

Roussel wrote in French news magazine Le Nouvel Observateur: "I am going to be unpleasant here about Charb. He was the editor. What need did he have to drag the team into such a high-stakes game?”


Read more: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/charlie-hebdo-founder-accused-murdered-editor-of-dragging-team-to-their-deaths-9980414.html

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Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. Where is the exact full quote, not a hyphenated sentence, that he said "dragged team to their deaths"?
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 11:22 AM
Jan 2015

translated from French...what was the original French? The linked article has no links to the article they talk about?

I see nothing in the article that he said that. I appreciate the linked headline says that, but the linked article appears to be a poorly written piece of distortion and subterfuge to justify a sensationalist headline.

We need truth in the debate, not arguments over facts and made up stuff, like the linked article author did.

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Roussel wrote in French news magazine Le Nouvel Observateur: "I am going to be unpleasant here about Charb. He was the editor. What need did he have to drag the team into such a high-stakes game?”

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
3. So now you're a French linguistics expert?
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 11:29 AM
Jan 2015

Wow. We have a lot of experts on French language, culture, literature, film, religion, probably lots more.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
4. You seem not to care that the linked author has mashed up the offending quote? Nothing to do
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 11:30 AM
Jan 2015

with linguistics.

Arkansas Granny

(32,265 posts)
5. It doesn't take an expert to go to the linked article and see that the phrase that was quoted
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 12:31 PM
Jan 2015

is nowhere in the article. It seems more than a little misleading.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
2. It's an interesting question, and coming from him, given he's Charlie Hebdo's founder,
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 11:24 AM
Jan 2015

one that I anticipate will be much discussed.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. Even the Charlie Hebdo founder is scared of upsetting people with cartoons
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 04:08 PM
Jan 2015

We cannot let those who believe cartoons are worth killing over set the rules for society.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
9. I thought the French Senate set the rules for society (normally referred to as a 'government').
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 05:01 PM
Jan 2015

?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. I thought so too
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 05:16 PM
Jan 2015

Hopefully their government won't let fear stand in the way of protecting freedom of expression.

ozone_man

(4,825 posts)
11. Exactly!
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 08:01 PM
Jan 2015

I had to listen to an OP on NPR this evening about why we should not criticize faith. This coming from a native of India, who said it would be totally unacceptable to do so there. Maybe so, but in the modern world, everything is open to criticism. How will Islam ever become a modern religion if it can't handle criticism? This is something that Christianity has a 500 year head start. We don't have holy wars or inquisitions or Nazi genocides in the name of Christianity, but have become more subtle. It is arguable which is worse, the subtle mind control of religions, or the brutal intolerance of religions. They are both evils with differing acceptance in the modern era.

NPR, to their credit, allows an OP by an atheist once in a while (rarely), but my impression is that they tilt heavily toward faith based interviews.

EX500rider

(12,581 posts)
8. Wow, so he's ok with mocking Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, etc...
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 04:22 PM
Jan 2015

....but Islam gets a pass?

I don't think so.

Better to reprint the comics every day across the world till they grow up and get used to it.

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