Analysis Of The Military Situation: Nato Sees Ukraine As Already Loser

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By Benjamin Bidder and Matthias Gebauer

Kiev / Moscow - NATO has changed its military assessment of the situation in eastern Ukraine fundamentally. A week ago, the strategists of the Alliance assumed that Russia has strengthened the separatists with covert troops only because the pro-Russian rebels had to retreat under pressure of the Ukrainian army.

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When the generals of the alliance but then late last week to a crisis meeting on the situation of the army of the Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko came together, they painted a grim picture. "Militarily, the conflict for Kiev is already lost," stated a senior NATO general. Poroshenko, the judgment, were "really only talks to withdraw his men alive from the pliers of the Russians".

The location descriptions behind closed doors were far more dramatic than the few images that NATO published mid-week. On large maps were marked with thick arrows Russian units, which now from the north, the west and the south on the border of eastern Ukraine are at least 20 Battaillone with a minimum of 500 men and heavy guns are the scouts of NATO.

Of particular concern was the NATO military the new front in the south near the city of Mariupol. Moscow could use the troops to liberate a land connection to the Crimea - and so consolidate the illegal annexation of the peninsula. Moreover, Ukraine has in fact completely lost control of their own eastern border.

On the other side of the border, the situation is not much better. Thus, the Ukrainian units encircled by separatists and Russian soldiers with heavy artillery, as well as no more freedom of movement.

Great success in early August - then the setbacks

Kiev had achieved massive military successes in the first week of August and the cities of Donetsk and Luhansk almost included. In Kiev, many hoped for a quick victory. Russia thus strengthened its military support. An offensive by the pro-Russian fighter threw Kiev military far behind.

Since it is a setback after another for Kiev. On Monday, Ukrainian units withdrew after heavy shelling from Lugansk airport. After Ukrainian details a Russian tank battalion was involved in the taking. For the first time the separatists thus control an airport. In Kiev the growing fear that Moscow could now support the rebels with fighter planes.

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[Blue_Tires]

1. Yeah, it's way too late for NATO to act now...

Poland may as well just annex Western Ukraine, since no one seems to give a shit...

[bemildred]

2. There has never been a military solution for Ukraine in this. nt

[Igel]

3. There was, but it was early.

At the very beginning. Think, "Be Putin." At the first sign of resistance, crush the opposition before it can built capacity and hold territory to defend.

But the "fascists" that weren't really fascists were too busy being non-fascists and non-violent to win the PR/political war and garner western support to be that decisive. It didn't work: The West is a piss-poor ally and speaks great words about rights and such but really only cares enough to get votes. When it comes to backing up their words, they're afraid that their fingernails might get chipped. It's only really willing to intervene when it's pretty much no risk. Even against IS, where it *was* at risk, the attitude is that "We should be able to kill you, but how dare you lift a finger against us?"

All ideas of cultural sensitivity vanish in the harsh glare of cultural supremacy: Our culture is the only reasonable one, so 'all should be outraged at how *we've* been treated. It plays well in Peoria and in Dover, which is what really matters.

Don't stand up to bullies, you get run over by them. Don't stand up to dates who are all hands, you really have to rely on emergency contraception. In this case, we like blaming the victim because, well, we counseled being nice to the bully and going on the date with the rapist. To the point of saying, "We'll be honest right up front--he forces himself on you on our sofa, we're not going to do squat about it but maybe whip out our phones and video it."