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Manifest Destiny

(139 posts)
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 02:26 PM Feb 2015

Lavrov: US escalated Ukraine crisis at every stage, blamed Russia

Sergey Lavrov has lashed out at the US for their double standards over Ukraine and taking steps that “only promoted further aggravation” of the conflict. He added Russia is ready to guarantee agreements between Kiev and the self-proclaimed republics.

One of the major sticking points of the crisis so far has been the failure of Kiev to engage in talks with militia leaders in the East of the country. Lavrov is staggered the US, who talked with the Taliban during their invasion of Afghanistan, through channels in Doha, Qatar, is unable to put pressure on Kiev to engage in discussions.

“In the case of Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen and Sudan our partners actively asked governments to enter into dialogue with the opposition, even if they were extremists. However, during the Ukrainian crisis, they act differently, making up excuses and try to justify the use of cluster bombs,” the Russian Foreign Minister said, who was speaking at a security conference in Munich on Saturday.

The issue of the far right’s rise in Ukrainian politics has been swept under the carpet by the US and EU. Some members of the Ukrainian parliament have promoted ideas such as exterminating Russians and Jews. However, these haven’t been reported or caused any alarm in the West, Russia’s foreign minister added.



http://rt.com/news/230219-lavrov-munich-speech-ukraine/

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polly7

(20,582 posts)
3. Maybe you should try to censor people on a board with posters who aren't capable
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 02:47 PM
Feb 2015

of independent thought?

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
8. Reporting the words of a foreign diplomat is not "propaganda": Although our orwellian
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 05:26 PM
Feb 2015

path seems to be toward that idea.
And I see some here have already embraced it.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
19. It's so embarrassing. Lavrov is full of shit. Blatant RT/Lavrov lies right at the beginning
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 03:45 PM
Feb 2015

"However, these haven’t been reported or caused any alarm in the West, Russia’s foreign minister added."

What a crock. Do I really have to show all the links to how these issues have been reported in the West? But Occupation Deniers just eat up these lies like children

polly7

(20,582 posts)
2. Thanks for this.
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 02:46 PM
Feb 2015

I appreciate seeing information from ALL sources. That the west chooses to ignore ALL of what's happening in Ukraine as opposed to purely blaming Russia for it and rah-rahing up the war-talk is nothing unusual and just proves an agenda both by the media and everyone defending it. We saw it all before, with Iraq, Libya, and countless other countries. The only casualties reported on are that of the 'chosen' side, while their crimes against humanity and unwillingness to take measures to stop the deaths and suffering are ignored. It's the same thing every time.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
13. I have lots of buddies.
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 07:38 AM
Feb 2015

Perhaps 'he' went wherever the fuck he wanted to. You and your buddies seem to be only capable of stalking people you hate and trying to censor everyone like we're 10 y/o's. I thought this was an adult board where people were able to discuss very important issues without being subject to that sort of thing. Maybe you should go west, or east, south, north? and find somewhere that you can get away with it without being called out for it?

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
14. No, he was sent actually.
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 10:16 AM
Feb 2015

This is/was an adult board before the Putinistas invaded.
And he violated DU rules by coming back as a sock puppet, mocking DU in the process.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
15. Hey, I was conversing with a sock puppet using both her original name
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 10:45 AM
Feb 2015

as well as her sock, both in the same thread. She's still here. Get over it. Your hate has reduced you to schoolchild bullying.

'Putinistas'/Hussein lovers'/ - that's also gotten pathetic. Some of us really CARE what's happening in Ukraine and aren't afraid to speak out about articles we read from all sources. Too bad, so sad you can't control the discourse, eh? I know how hard that must be for you, but 'adult boards' allow that sort of thing - it's what enables people to make up their own minds on what to see as legitimate or not. YOU don't get to decide for anyone but yourself on that.

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
17. Jury results.
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 11:44 AM
Feb 2015

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Response to HERVEPA (Reply #14)

Nitram

(23,529 posts)
9. Laughable
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 07:10 PM
Feb 2015

Manifest, do you really think engaging in the opposite-speak of that old elementary school game will persuade anyone of anything?

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
10. I watched Lavrov's entire Munich speech, today...
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 11:17 PM
Feb 2015

Also the Q&A following. Very interesting. Lavrov makes a lot of sense, unlike some of the fools who were asking questions and laughing at his answers. Classy!

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
12. So wait, the US annexed Crimea?
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 01:40 AM
Feb 2015

Lavrov is a lying scum bag.

And you should be ashamed of posting that propaganda.

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