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Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 04:23 PM Mar 2015

Venezuela’s Continuous Coup

March 03, 2015

Is it Imminent? It's Everpresent!

Venezuela’s Continuous Coup

by ALFREDO LOPEZ

When Caracas Mayor Antonio Ledezma was arrested last week, charged with organizing and leading a coup, the U.S. State Department’s spokeswoman Jen Psaki said: “The allegations made by the Venezuelan government that the United States is involved in coup plotting and destabilization are baseless and false. The United States does not support political transitions by non-constitutional means.”

That remarkable quote — denying what has been a well-known and fully documented pillar of U.S. foreign policy for the last 30 years — tells us more truth than the lie Psaki was trying to spread. Why, at this point, would Washington make such a definitive and laughably false statement?

Legacy and Challenge: Maduro salutes Chavez at rally

The evidence is overwhelming that the rich and powerful of Venezuela have followed a continuous, constantly morphing plan to de-stabilize the country and take over the government by any means necessary and that the United States government knows about that plan, supports it and, as much as it can, is assisting in it.

“There’s been an ongoing effort to destabilize the government,” said author Miguel Tinker Salas, a top authority on the Venezuela’s situation, “to represent the government as a crisis in crisis mode, and to depict the country as if it’s on the brink of a precipice.”

More:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/03/03/venezuelas-continuous-coup/

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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
1. Stalinist drivel that equates opposing government policy and the Bolivarians to treason and coups
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 04:36 PM
Mar 2015

The article celebrates the jailing of an elected mayor because he wants the wrong economic policies.

Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
2. Instead of throwing around bogus labels & insluts, show how the article is "Stalinist drivel"
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 04:59 PM
Mar 2015

or stop trying to prevent others from reading it by red-baiting.

You're didn't find "Stalinist drivel" in this article, and you know it. Why would you attempt to misrepresent it?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
3. The article celebrates the jailing of political opposition on the basis of being
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 05:02 PM
Mar 2015

political opponents. And for wanting the wrong economic policies.

And it defines "coup" as wanting the current ruling party replaced.

Go ahead and name a crime that Ledezma has committed that the article cites.

Here is what this author claims is a coup:

Around the time of their arrests, politician Leopoldo Lopez (who is now in jail accused of fomenting riots) stated clearly that the strategy of the “La Salida” (The Exit) movement he founded is to “unseat the President through protests”.

The stage was set for the Ledezma arrest. In 2014, Lopez joined Machado and Ledezma in writing a curious declaration called the “National Transition Agreement” that they allegedly planned to release on February 12 of this year.

Suggesting that the Venezuelan government is in its “terminal phase”, the declaration states the need to “name new authorities.” It then goes on to describe a restructured economy and a completely revamped society. Virtually everything the Bolivarian Revolution has put in place — from nationalization of utilites and the petroleum industry to education and social programs — would be scrapped. The picture that emerges is of the pre-Chavez Venezuela of old.

Some of the trio’s defenders insist that this was a plan for a transition based on legal, electoral processes. But there’s no mention of elections in the document and the plan’s language is couched not in the terms of an electoral pitch but as a concrete strategic plan for immediate implemention. The fact that all three of its authors have participated in government de-stabilization in the past and have all been linked to the 2002 coup has many Venezuelans convinced that this is the plan that would be implemented after a military take-over.


Protests.

These guys would have run tanks over Occupy Wall Street.

Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
4. There is no way on earth you could compare the opposition in Venezuela to "Occupy Wall Street."
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 05:21 PM
Mar 2015

Nice try, but no one anywhere could buy that.

They moral, ethical opposites. Your Venezuelan opposition supports deeply violent protests, called "guarimbas." That's what their name means.

Not too much in common. You'd have to be insane to try to compare them.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. I'm not comparing ideology, I'm comparing tactics.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 05:26 PM
Mar 2015

Again, let me quote what the crime of the century was according to Maduro et al:

The stage was set for the Ledezma arrest. In 2014, Lopez joined Machado and Ledezma in writing a curious declaration called the “National Transition Agreement” that they allegedly planned to release on February 12 of this year.

Suggesting that the Venezuelan government is in its “terminal phase”, the declaration states the need to “name new authorities.” It then goes on to describe a restructured economy and a completely revamped society. Virtually everything the Bolivarian Revolution has put in place — from nationalization of utilites and the petroleum industry to education and social programs — would be scrapped. The picture that emerges is of the pre-Chavez Venezuela of old.

Some of the trio’s defenders insist that this was a plan for a transition based on legal, electoral processes. But there’s no mention of elections in the document and the plan’s language is couched not in the terms of an electoral pitch but as a concrete strategic plan for immediate implemention.


In short, they got arrested for a thought crime, for spelling out what they wanted the government to look like.

Even if one rejects most or even all of what such a declaration contains, the idea of jailing people for the mere act of authoring it is inconsistent with democracy, but perfectly consistent with Stalin's USSR or in Orwell's Oceania.



Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
7. I would suggest if any reader has doubts about Venezuela, now is the time to start researching,
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 05:50 PM
Mar 2015

to read, continue to look, read, and research as much as you possibly can, to get past what corporate "news" media have been shoving down your throats every day since Hugo Chavez took office February 2, 1999.

It will take a while, because the truth always gets buried under a ton of lies, but once you find it, you'll know what it was they didn't want you to know.

Don't settle for anyone's mere comments, instead start looking for yourself. You definitely will get there, and will know it, then you will see the pattern of lies which has been concealing actual history all this time. You'll have no doubt whatsoever.

"geek tragedy," you might want to take longer to think things through. Your claims don't approach honesty. You're hoping to take advantage of people who haven't had time to learn what these people are and what has happened.

My recommendation to everyone is to please READ, find out for yourselves, and you can't be misled.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. No, unlike you, I'm not willing to excuse Stalinism and authoritarianism if someone with my
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 06:50 PM
Mar 2015

ideology is in charge.

Maduro and his hard-line authoritarian supporters have yet to cite a single act that would justify imprisoning Ledezma for 'treason' or 'coup' planning.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
6. You need to check on your definition of Guarimbas.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 05:46 PM
Mar 2015

The word, taken from a childrens' game of hide and seek was used by Communist revolutionaries in Venezuela protesting against Perez Jimenez. Guarimba in popular use means putting up barricades to impede traffic, usually in residential areas, but without violence or confrontation with police or military. There is no violence historically associated with the term Guarimba, although Chavez and Maduro have often used it as a derogatory term against groups protesting their government.

Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
8. I've been aware of "guarimbas" since Chavez was inaugurated. Hardly a "game."
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 06:27 PM
Mar 2015

From various sources:


Why the Media Are Giving a Free Pass to Venezuela’s Neo-Fascist Creeps

Roberto Lovato interviews intellectual heavyweight Luis García Britto about the role of the media in the current conflict in Venezuela.
Roberto Lovato April 1, 2014

~ snip ~

Look at the violent actions like grabbing and holding middle-class people prisoners in neighborhoods with barricades called guarimbas. I’ve never understood it. This “strategy” was “invented” by a Cuban-Venezuelan named Robert Alonso, brother of a Hollywood actress, Maria Conchita Alonso, who did a movie with Schwarzenegger. Mr. Alonso invented the guarimba as a way for a fractious minority to gain media attention by shutting off the street. They chuck trash or debris or waste so that their neighbors can’t get in our out. It gets media attention, but also immobilizes the right, a real political marvel. The guarimberos are cutting themselves off from the very people who could support the right. You hear the complaints, but not in the news reports. So what are you thinking, shutting down, burning down your own neighborhoods?

What do you think will happen?

We’ve seen a lot of this before. The cameras like the guarimbas, but, looked at from within the country, it’s a ludicrous political action. Insane. They tried this out before, in 2004, and it failed. They’ve had political messiahs like Leopoldo López, most of whom have been forgotten. You saw the future in the recent Carnaval celebrations. The right called for a boycott of Carnaval. The poor rejected their call and filled the beaches and the streets with their celebrations. Yet again, the international media didn’t take notice. The Colombian novelist William Ospina says that in the entire world, the rich celebrate and the poor protest. Only in Venezuela do the poor celebrate and the rich protest.

http://www.thenation.com/article/179125/why-media-are-giving-free-pass-venezuelas-neo-fascist-creeps#

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Roberto Alonso


Roberto Alonso (born August 23, 1950) is an anti- Castro activist in Florida, United States where he lives most of the time. He also owns a ranch in La Mata, Baruta, in Venezuela near the capital Caracas. On May 9, 2004 the political police of Venezuela (DISIP) announced the capture of 55 Colombians accused of being paramilitaries on Alonso's ranch. After this announcement, he secretly moved out of Venezuela to the US, where he is currently awaiting a petition of extradition made by the Venezuelan government.

Biography

Roberto "Robert" Alonso was born in Cienfuegos, Cuba, on August 23rd 1950. He arrived in Venezuela in 1961 as a political refugee with his family, including his sister María Conchita Alonso, now a Hollywood movie star and his brother Ricardo, a prominent lawyer in Caracas.

Alonso has been an anti-Castro activist since 1972 and a journalist since 1980. He has written 5 books: "Los Generales de Castro", "Memorias de Cienfuegos", "Alertas", "Los Evangélicos" and "Regresando del Mar de la Felicidad". “Que la Bête Meure”, a novel written by Gerard de Villiers was inspired on the “Paramilitaries Affair”, related to Alonso and his farm, Daktari.

He is considered the father of “La Guarimba”, an uprising technique designed by him to overthrow Hugo Chavez. “La Guarimba” was enforced in Venezuela between the 27th of February and the 6th of March, 2004, some Venezuelans attended his call blocking the streets and paralyzing the country with burning garbage and tires. Alonso is against any negotiation with the Venezuelan authorities and promotes deposing the government by means of civil disobedience.

According to the Venezuelan regime, Alonso is a Cuban traitor, a terrorist who joined the CIA in 1972.

http://www.reference.com/browse/getting+some+shut+eye

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Violent Protests in Venezuela Fit a Pattern
Sunday, 23 February 2014 09:43
By Dan Beeton, Center for Economic Policy and Research | News Analysis

Venezuela’s latest round of violent protests appears to fit a pattern, and represents the tug-and-pull nature of the country’s divided opposition. Several times over the past 15 years since the late, former president Hugo Chávez took office in 1999, the political opposition has launched violent protests aimed at forcing the current president out of office. Most notably, such protests were a part of the April 2002 coup that temporarily deposed Chávez, and then accompanied the 2002/2003 oil strike. In February of 2004, a particularly radical sector of the opposition unleashed the “Guarimba”: violent riots by small groups who paralyzed much of the east of Caracas for several days with the declared goal of creating a state of chaos. As CEPR Co-Director Mark Weisbrot has explained, then – as now – the strategy is clear: a sector of the opposition seeks to overturn the results of democratic elections. An important difference this time of course is that Venezuela has its first post-Chávez president, and a key part of the opposition’s strategy overall has been to depict Nicolás Maduro as a pale imitation of his predecessor and a president ill-equipped to deal with the country’s problems (many of which are exaggerated in the Venezuelan private media, which is still largely opposition-owned, as well as the international media).

More:
http://truth-out.org/news/item/22043-violent-protests-in-venezuela-fit-a-pattern#

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Sat Jan 31, 2015, 04:11 PM

As non-right-wingers already know, these protests,called "guarimbas" (violent protests) are violent.

They have always been MEANT to be violent from the first day Hugo Chavez was in office.

Their very name means VIOLENT protest.

You can hope to mislead people for the rest of your life, but the truth will be known, regardless.

Posting the start of a letter to the President of UNASUR regarding "guarimba" as spear-headed and promoted from the first day of office for Hugo Chavez by Roberto Alonzo, a Cuban-Venezuelan "exile" who is currently holed up in Kendall, Florida after the Venzuelan government, tipped off by an informant discovered a group of over 100 Colombian paramilitaries living on Alonzo's ranch, Daktari outside Caracas, waiting to implement their plan to knock over a national guard armory and take over 1,000 rifles to use in an invasion of the Presidential Palace to kill Hugo Chavez.

Don't bother denying it, it was already confessed, and acknowledged.

When they were arrested and taken away, Roberto Alonzo fled to Florida, of course, to live among his political allies.

Here is a published letter explaining what has been happening under the "cute" term guarimba, named after a child's tag game.
It is of course still employed, as in the organized blocking of streets with bonfires, burning tires, and the use of wire across the streets to decapitate opposition motorcycle riders trying to pass through, a vicious, evil weapon they use to terrorize Venezuelans who stand by their votes for the Venezuelan government:

Miles de firmas lo respaldan

Doctor

Alí Rodríguez Araque
Secretary General UNASUR

Dear Secretary General:

Please receive our respectful, Bolivarian, revolutionary, patriotic and anti-imperialist greeting. Please make this greeting extensive to people working together with you in your important assignment in benefit of peace and the sovereignty of the South-American nations.
Currently in Venezuela, ultra-right-wing groups have developed an extreme and way to protest against the State and the Venezuelan people called “guarimba”. A guarimba is a lock-down sector of the city or neighbourhood. “Guarimba-people” or “guarimberos” block roads using different kinds of materials (barricades) and then proceed to control access of people and vehicles to such neighborhoods.

As part of the control they exercise, they proceed to charge a fee (in Bolivares), every time someone attempts to enter or exit the guarimba area. They not only control access, they specially target people using red-colour clothing, and even red-colour cars assuming they are Chavez's sympathizer (chavista). “Guarimbas” are a display of a dangerous lack of tolerance in Venezuela.

Under slogans such like “It is not a crime to think differently” they verbally and physically attack anyone they think may be a “chavista.” Their ideology is radically anti-socialist, anti-communist, and pro-USA. They demand “freedom” by denying freedom to others. They shout they are hungry but they burn-down trucks delivering food and food-storage places. They manifest not to have “freedom of expression” while being close-minded to other ways of thinking. They lay claim to not having security while committing criminal acts, including assassinations, and violent aggressions against civilians and security forces.

“Guarimberos” enjoy international support, including mainstream mass-media. Well-known artists, and politicians have expressed their support to the “guarimberos” in a very well organized international campaign of propaganda against the constitutional authorities of the country. This campaign has achieved such unbelievable distortions that they call “dictators” to free-elected authorities, who are exercising important restraints in dealing with guarimbas.

Current Venezuelan president, Nicolas Maduro, is not only a convinced democrat, and a recently elected President with less than a year in power. Former President Jimmy Carter called the Venezuelan electoral system “the most perfect of the world.” Additionally, the Venezuelan constitution opens the possibility to a middle term referendum on his presidency. It seems crazy to think that some people around the world are supporting the deposition of an elected president, and in fact subjecting the Venezuelan people to a so called soft coup, to assassinations, and other types of human rights violations because Venezuela is practicing elevated forms of participatory democracy, which can set a bad example for other subjected countries.

In spite of a strong propaganda campaign talking about human-rights violations, it is the Venezuelan police force and civilians opposed to guarimbas who have suffered most of the deaths and injuries.

“Guarimberos” enjoy the services of a powerful buffet of lawyers. They also take advantage of weaknesses in the legal system where opposition judges can grant them freedom with ease should police capture them.

“Guarimberos” receive daily payments and armed protection from Colombian mercenaries. But they receive more than money, they have been subjected to a psychological campaign, which makes them believe that Cuba is damnation for the continent, and that to be subjected to USA's power is the only way to development and happiness. They march with the US flag and with an upside-down Venezuelan flag.

The propaganda campaign states that “guarimberos” are students. It is true, students do participate in protests, including pacific marches in support of guarimbas and demanding a change of government. Instead, “guarimberos” are criminals, period. They use the term “student” as a way of softening criminal acts, for public opinion sake. They attempt to present criminal acts as acts of revelry carried out by crazy youth to make their crimes more palatable. They have in fact among other crimes burned-down fifteen universities; several libraries; and natural forests. They have cut more than five thousand trees that they use to barricade neighbourhoods; and with no mercy they burn and kill cats and dogs in bonfires.

More:
https://nacla.org/article/how-venezuela%E2%80%99s-right-discovered-human-rights

(My earlier post #13,
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141002406 )


COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
10. Do you ever actually respond to facts with anything
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 08:19 PM
Mar 2015

other than a cut and paste from your favorite Chavista de jour? The fact that Chavez took it upon himself to try to turn this word into a perjorative is irrelevant. One of his more ardent admirers in the Academic world, Roberto J. Silva took Chavez to task (literarily) for his use of the term. Silva, writing in the Chavista publication Aporrea states:

"ASI, QUE, NOSOTROS LOS VENEZOLANOS REVOLUCIONARIOS BOLIVARIANOS NO DEBEMOS CONTINUAR LLAMANDO A ESAS ACCIONES VIOLENTAS PRO-IMPERIALISTAS, CON LA PALABRA GUARIMBA, SINO CON LA PALABRA “PITIYANQUIADA” [caps in original] (Real Academia Española, Wikipedia: pitiyanqui / Del .fr.petit y yanqui / 1.m. despect .Ven. Imitador del estadounidense) Roberto J. Silva | Aporrea Viernes, 29/06/2007 09:18 AM

[For the non-Spanish speakers, Silva opines the need for a new word to describe the anti-governmental protestors , i.e 'PITIYANQUIADA,' literally "done in the US-imitating way".]

Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
11. Roberto Alonso himself claims the word "guarimba." "Favorite Chavista du jour?"
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 10:43 PM
Mar 2015

War on Hugo Chávez

An outlaw and former spook takes on the Venezuelan dictator
By Janine Zeitlin Thursday, Oct 11 2007

~ snip ~

Robert dubs the plan that caused him to flee his homeland La Guarimba, and says it's nonviolent. But the last time he made his pitch for revolt — in 2004 — at least 13 people were killed and more than 100 were wounded in clashes. "If you don't follow the instructions, it's not my fault.... When you commit yourself to something, you have to quemar los barcos, burn the ships. There's no way out," says the 57-year-old with a shock of white hair and an ample belly. "We're at war."

More:
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2007-10-11/news/war-on-hugo-ch-aacute-vez/full/

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The struggle over Chavez's legacy
Jeremy Fox 30 May 2014

Another protest leader, Roberto Alonso, explains that, ”…the sole aim of the guarimba (street protests, barricades etc.), apart from paralysing the country, is to create chaos…so as to oblige the Castro-communist regime of Venezuela to implement the Plan Ávila,” a contingency plan to use the army to maintain public order employed in 1989 by President Carlos Andrés Pérez with disastrous consequences. This would inevitably lead to the end of the Maduro government.

More:
https://www.opendemocracy.net/opensecurity/jeremy-fox/struggle-over-chavezs-legacy

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