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newthinking

(3,982 posts)
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 07:45 AM Mar 2015

Reckless in Kiev: Neocons, Putin and Ukraine

This is an excellent read to understand current events in the region.

Reckless in Kiev: Neocons, Putin and Ukraine
Why Obama and Putin must desist from reckless military interventions in other countries' affairs.
Marwan Bishara - Al Jazeera

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/03/reckless-kiev-neocons-putin-ukr-201431053846277945.html

If it walks like a duck...

"...there should be no mistaking her (Victoria Nuland, Assistant Secretary of State) ideological leaning. Not only because she's the spouse of leading neoconservative, Robert Kagan. Or, that she's the sister-in-law of another prominent Neocon, Fredrick Kagan and wife Kimberly, both think-tank type military historians.

They all belong to a Washington clique of neoconservatives that continue to affect foreign policy who, like most of the other collaborators in the movement, haven't served in the military and are referred to by their detractors as "chicken-hawks"".


Like most of the people speaking about Ukraine,I am no expert. But I know one or two things about the history of the Cold War to recognise a polarising cliche when I hear one, or a demonising characterisation that leads to further escalation of a dangerous situation.

Already, the ripples from Ukraine are having long terms strategic ramifications regardless whether a diplomatic solution is reached soon. Alas, much of that depends not on Ukrainians but rather on Moscow and Washington - my very focus here and in the next episode of EMPIRE . Both have cynically pulled and shoved this country in the name of freedom and security, euphemisms for imperial interests, and pretexts for intervention.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has made bold moves and a few conciliatory statements since the crisis deteriorated, with lots of improvisation in between, in an attempt to achieve the twin goals of preserving Russia's interest in Ukraine and stemming the tide of Western expansion in Ukraine and former republics of the Soviet Union. And in the process reconstitute Moscow's area of influence His abrupt and repressive ways are questionable; indeed reprehensible.
Counting the Cost - The price of military intervention

How Washington reacts depends largely on its original motivations and goals for getting so deeply involved, and on whether the White House was privy to what US diplomats, notably Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs Victoria Nuland and US ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt,, were cooking in Kiev. In other words, what did Obama know and when did he know it?

Full read here:
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/03/reckless-kiev-neocons-putin-ukr-201431053846277945.html

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Reckless in Kiev: Neocons, Putin and Ukraine (Original Post) newthinking Mar 2015 OP
... uhnope Mar 2015 #1
It's a vast conspiracy against you newthinking Mar 2015 #4
kick. Thanks for posting. +1 eom Purveyor Mar 2015 #2
The Opening Montage of MSM/Fox News is worth the watch............! KoKo Mar 2015 #3

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
3. The Opening Montage of MSM/Fox News is worth the watch............!
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 08:41 PM
Mar 2015

The rest is an interesting discussion to add into those who want to read more about what is going on is also a good watch. It's a very good discussion one won't see here in the USA on MSM/Cable.

Thanks for Posting!

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