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Panich52

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Mon Sep 21, 2015, 12:37 AM Sep 2015

The Founders Disagree With Ben Carson

Daily Kos

Ben Carson is radically at odds in his view of a Muslim President from the Founders of this nation. This country was founded as a secular nation and the Founders specifically contemplated that a Muslim would be elected President some day.

This is not speculation or inference. The Founders views are explicitly memorialized from the debates that led to the adoption of the U.S. Constitution, the founding document for our government.

First a Little History

The Colonies declared their independence from England in 1776, but the country was not truly formed until the U.S. Constitution was drafted in 1787 and ratified in 1788. The original Constitution was a radical document. The Constitution invoked the "blessings of Liberty" not the "blessings of God," and formed a country based on the authority of "We the People" not the will of God.

The U.S. Constitution was drafted at a Constitutional convention, but it was not adopted until it was voted on separately by each State. The Founders of our country are the men who voted for its adoption in the States.

While transcripts of the debates surrounding the drafting of the Constitution were not preserved (if even made), most of the debates in the State ratification conventions were transcribed, and the public debate in the media of that time is also preserved. These documents reveal that the men who founded our country, who framed the Constitution and voted to ratify its adoption, firmly believed that the U.S. was founded as a secular country.

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The Founders Disagree With Ben Carson (Original Post) Panich52 Sep 2015 OP
"Mahometans"and "natural religion" -two terms you don't see very often. nt bananas Sep 2015 #1
Not "would." Igel Sep 2015 #2
Ben Carson is not qualified to be POTUS Gothmog Sep 2015 #3

Igel

(35,268 posts)
2. Not "would."
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 07:32 AM
Sep 2015

"Could."

And we've expanded "founders" from those at the convention to those who were in the state assembly and might even argue against the founders.

We've also conflated personal opinion with the Constitution, or decided that one's personal opinion must be what the Constitution says because it's the highest law in the land and overrides even personal opinion. At least in this case, but when we disagree with the founders and the Constitution, well, damn them to hell for their atavism and ignorance for failing to agree with us, their betters.

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