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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 08:11 AM Dec 2011

"We Want Your Retina?" My 37 Hours In Police Custody For Protesting Were An Eye Opener

http://www.alternet.org/occupywallst/153440/%22we_want_your_retina%22_my_37_hours_in_police_custody_for_protesting_were_an_eye_opener/?page=entire

Salon / By John Knefel

"We Want Your Retina?" My 37 Hours in Police Custody for Protesting Were an Eye Opener

Why it's important for occupiers to see the inside of the prison-industrial complex.


December 14, 2011 |

“You got press credentials?”

I barely had time to say no to the mustachioed White Shirt before he grabbed my forearm and threw me to the ground. As he brought me down I transferred my smartphone – which I had been using to document the NYPD’s aggressive arrests following the impromptu celebration in the Winter Garden on Dec. 12 – to my left hand and then my pocket. The website Boing Boing posted a very dramatic photograph of me holding my glasses while police pile on top of me. I’ve been covering Occupy Wall Street as an independent journalist for its entirety as a radio show host, for Salon, and on the ground.



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We want your retina

When we were finally brought to the final holding area for our arraignment we were informed that if we refused to submit to a retina scan we would likely be held overnight. The retina scan is a voluntary procedure that all 10 of us had already denied earlier that day. According to our lawyers from the National Lawyers Guild – who are heroes – the lieutenant on duty and the judge said that if we continued to refuse the scans we wouldn’t get out that night. With only a few exceptions due to personal commitments, we all stood in solidarity and refused to submit to the procedure. This was around 11 p.m. on Tuesday, roughly 36 hours after our arrest. Several of the women arrested and a majority of the men were going to spend another night in prison to protest the ever expanding security state. In many ways, this final hurdle was the most egregious encroachment on our liberties. The retinal scan is a voluntary procedure, but if you don’t submit to it, you will be punished.

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"We Want Your Retina?" My 37 Hours In Police Custody For Protesting Were An Eye Opener (Original Post) Hissyspit Dec 2011 OP
First it was DNA taking now this. I don't even recognize America anymore. Justice wanted Dec 2011 #1
I'll give them a scan unionworks Dec 2011 #2
"Resisting arrest...take this!" rfranklin Dec 2011 #3
"All your retinas are belong to us." - The Authorities SpiralHawk Dec 2011 #4
I had to get an iris scan. Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2011 #5
Wouldn't have helped sakabatou Dec 2011 #21
Wow pmorlan1 Dec 2011 #6
That is absolutely creepy. ProfessionalLeftist Dec 2011 #7
"The retina scan is a voluntary procedure..." progressoid Dec 2011 #8
Sounds to me like it already is, in effect nt Remember Me Dec 2011 #23
at this point anyone who doesn't understand that this is a police state is not paying attention Warren Stupidity Dec 2011 #9
In Israel young people call America the "labour camp" Bo Dec 2011 #19
Wow. Strictly voluntary. Unless you want to be held on bullshit charges overnight. DirkGently Dec 2011 #10
K & R! lonestarnot Dec 2011 #11
That's a powerful photo eyewall Dec 2011 #12
The Constitution means nothing. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #13
a message for the NYPD... Bozita Dec 2011 #14
+1 wakemewhenitsover Dec 2011 #16
Sorry, the retinal scan is not voluntary. caseymoz Dec 2011 #15
Remember Minority Report, everybody getting scanned wherever they go? Shining Jack Dec 2011 #17
Using retina scans to identify people should be illegal. JDPriestly Dec 2011 #18
How do you feel about fingerprints? hack89 Dec 2011 #20
Damn these whores of the ruling class. Dawson Leery Dec 2011 #22
 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
5. I had to get an iris scan.
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 11:54 AM
Dec 2011

When I got my Texas drivers license redone, that I had lost.
Should have worn my contacts with a colored iris.

progressoid

(49,964 posts)
8. "The retina scan is a voluntary procedure..."
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 03:51 PM
Dec 2011

I doubt it will be voluntary for much longer. Look for it to be mandatory soon.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
9. at this point anyone who doesn't understand that this is a police state is not paying attention
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 07:02 PM
Dec 2011

the enabling act was the patriot act, but really this started a long time ago with the war on drugs. We live in a police state. Is it fascism yet? I don't know and I no longer care to have that definitional argument. It is what it is, it ain't your grandfather's goose stepping nazis, it is swat teams pepper spray IQ Carrier and electronic eavesdropping and surveillance cameras everywhere.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
15. Sorry, the retinal scan is not voluntary.
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 01:32 AM
Dec 2011

If it costs you one night in jail, if you are held hostage for any time, if you lose any amount of your liberty if you don't take the retinal scan, it isn't voluntary and you shouldn't think of it as such. I resent them even suggesting it is. Fact is, you are being coerced, but they know as authority figures if they call it "voluntary" people might just believe it. Don't fall for it.
 

Shining Jack

(1,559 posts)
17. Remember Minority Report, everybody getting scanned wherever they go?
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 03:18 AM
Dec 2011

DARPA's Smart-Iris Can Detect Eyes in a Moving Crowd



Engineers at Southern Methodist University (SMU) are working closely with DARPA to develop a new type of eye scanner that could identify a room full of people without their knowledge. The new image sensors, called Panoptes, could locate and scan a persons iris regardless of distance, and even if they're not looking directly at the camera. The system, dubbed Smart-Iris, is impervious to problems like poor lighting, glare, eye lashes, or movement. And, with the help of a new algorithm, it can function with only a partial scan.

http://www.switched.com/2010/06/01/darpas-smart-iris-can-detect-eyes-in-a-moving-crowd/

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
18. Using retina scans to identify people should be illegal.
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 03:28 AM
Dec 2011

There is something far to intrusive about it. You were not arrested for a felony.

They are wasting their money unless they are collecting retina scans of political dissidents for some file to be pulled out in the future.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
20. How do you feel about fingerprints?
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 04:36 PM
Dec 2011

If they are used in the same manner as fingerprints I don't see the big deal. I do oppose any expansion of the police recording biometric data.

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