Turkey’s Shootdown of Russian Jet: What You Need to Know
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/11/must-know-facts-turkish-shootdown-russian-jet.htmlA U.S. official told Reuters that the Russian jet was inside of Syria when it was shot down:
Russia is deploying a warship off the Syrian coast to destroy any threats to Russian planes. Many believe this is the start of World War III. While the U.S. and NATO tried to blame Russia, German Vice-Chancellor Sigmar Gabriel slammed Turkey:
Indeed, NATO-member Turkey is MASSIVELY supporting ISIS, provided chemical weapons used in the jihadis massacre of civilians, and has been bombing ISIS main on-the-ground enemy Kurdish soldiers using its air force. And some of the Turkish people are also unsympathetic to the victims of ISIS terrorism.Turkey was also instrumental in the creation of ISIS. An internal Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) document produced recently shows, the U.S. knew that the actions of the West, Gulf countries and Turkey in Syria might create a terrorist group like ISIS and an Islamic CALIPHATE.
As the former DIA head explained:
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TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)The 1st claim was never in doubt. Yes the plane was hit in Syrian air space but was it in Turkish air space when was the missile was launched? Those things are no respecter of borders once launched they will seek their target.
The second is partially correct and partially wrong. The pilot was killed but not the co-pilot who was rescued unharmed by Russian forces. The Turkmen Syrian Brigade is responsible for the killing of the pilot. The destruction of the Russian chopper. They may've been trained by the Turks but they are not Turks.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34910389
The Turkmen are ethnic Turks who have lived in the region of Syria, Iraq and Iran since the 11th Century.
They are mainly concentrated in the north, in the Turkmen Mountain area in Latakia close to the Turkish border, as well as in Aleppo, Idlib, Homs, Tartus and the Damascus region.
The destruction of the Russian chopper was carried out by a Syrian group who received arms from the U.S. They would view the Russians as enemies since they have been on the receiving end of Russian bombs and guns.
None of this will ever be crystal clear since it behooves all concerned to well George W. Bush accidentally said it right:
"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."
My analysis is suspect but that in your post has a few known falsehoods.
That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)I don't know what specific type of Russian helicopter it was nor where it was shot down, but the Syrians do use Russian made equipment. It's a mess, too many sides, too many weapons.
TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)A succinct and correct answer.
flamingdem
(39,312 posts)They were attacking anti-Assad fighters or.. ? That part is confused.
TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)It is a very complicated situation in Syria with the Turks backing groups, the US other groups, the Russians still more groups and then the Syrian armed forces. And I don't doubt there are other groups independent of all of the above.
The situation in Syria is the very definition of a clusterf**k.
flamingdem
(39,312 posts)a comedy about it. Well in a few years.