Military to Military: Seymour M. Hersh on US intelligence sharing in the Syrian war
EXCERPT:The militarys resistance dates back to the summer of 2013, when a highly classified assessment, put together by the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, then led by General Martin Dempsey, forecast that the fall of the Assad regime would lead to chaos and, potentially, to Syrias takeover by jihadi extremists, much as was then happening in Libya. A former senior adviser to the Joint Chiefs told me that the document was an all-source appraisal, drawing on information from signals, satellite and human intelligence, and took a dim view of the Obama administrations insistence on continuing to finance and arm the so-called moderate rebel groups. By then, the CIA had been conspiring for more than a year with allies in the UK, Saudi Arabia and Qatar to ship guns and goods to be used for the overthrow of Assad from Libya, via Turkey, into Syria. The new intelligence estimate singled out Turkey as a major impediment to Obamas Syria policy. The document showed, the adviser said, that what was started as a covert US programme to arm and support the moderate rebels fighting Assad had been co-opted by Turkey, and had morphed into an across-the-board technical, arms and logistical programme for all of the opposition, including Jabhat al-Nusra and Islamic State. The so-called moderates had evaporated and the Free Syrian Army was a rump group stationed at an airbase in Turkey. The assessment was bleak: there was no viable moderate opposition to Assad, and the US was arming extremists.
Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, director of the DIA between 2012 and 2014, confirmed that his agency had sent a constant stream of classified warnings to the civilian leadership about the dire consequences of toppling Assad. The jihadists, he said, were in control of the opposition. Turkey wasnt doing enough to stop the smuggling of foreign fighters and weapons across the border. If the American public saw the intelligence we were producing daily, at the most sensitive level, they would go ballistic, Flynn told me. We understood Isiss long-term strategy and its campaign plans, and we also discussed the fact that Turkey was looking the other way when it came to the growth of the Islamic State inside Syria. The DIAs reporting, he said, got enormous pushback from the Obama administration. I felt that they did not want to hear the truth.
Our policy of arming the opposition to Assad was unsuccessful and actually having a negative impact, the former JCS adviser said. The Joint Chiefs believed that Assad should not be replaced by fundamentalists. The administrations policy was contradictory. They wanted Assad to go but the opposition was dominated by extremists. So who was going to replace him? To say Assads got to go is fine, but if you follow that through therefore anyone is better. Its the anybody else is better issue that the JCS had with Obamas policy. The Joint Chiefs felt that a direct challenge to Obamas policy would have had a zero chance of success. So in the autumn of 2013 they decided to take steps against the extremists without going through political channels, by providing US intelligence to the militaries of other nations, on the understanding that it would be passed on to the Syrian army and used against the common enemy, Jabhat al-Nusra and Islamic State.
LINK London Review of Books:
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n01/seymour-m-hersh/military-to-military
leveymg
(36,418 posts)They're also the only one which is the least bit candid about the source of most ISIS funding: Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states.
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Proposed UN Sanctions Do Not Go To Most ISIS Funding from Wealthy Donors
There is broad agreement that "substantial" funds are still reaching ISIS from wealthy elites in Saudi Arabia, Qatar and other Gulf states. As the Pentagon announced yesterday, oil exports now do not account for most of ISIS finances. ISIS is instead depending on donations, a lot of donations, according to Rear Admiral John Kirby, spokesman for the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Further sanctions do not threaten the primary source of finance for the so-called Islamic State (IS), reported to be in excess of $2 billion last year. On Thursday, a UN measure was proposed by Russia that would sanction the trade in oil and stolen antiquities that partially funds ISIS funders. However, according to the NYT, it does not add to the existing list of individuals named for sanctions. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/07/world/middleeast/un-prepares-resolution-to-confront-islamic-state-on-oil-and-antiquities.html?_r=0
This spares the US and NATO the difficult task of having to immediately punish most of the same Sunni states with which it has been previously cooperating in prosecuting the war in Syria. The measure discussed on Friday would, however, specifically sanction parties engaged in smuggling oil from ISIS controlled areas, paying ransom, and the sale of stolen antiquities, the latter valued at $35 million last year.
Nobody seems to want to put a finger on exactly how much cash is still flowing to ISIS from wealthy ISIS funders, and who exactly they are. But, everyone agrees that support from the Saudis and Gulf elites continues to be substantial. See, http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/whos-funding-isis-wealthy-gulf-angel-investors-officials-say-n208006
In 2014, Saudi Arabia publicly agreed to clamp down on some donations from its citizens and religious foundations. As a result, most private funding now goes through Qatar. The UN Security Council Resolution 2170 passed last August 15 named only six individual ISIS leaders for direct sanctions. The new measure does not expand that list, but calls for a committee to nominate others for violation of existing UN resolutions.
The effects of the additional sanctions on oil exports proposed would have its primary impact on crude oil smuggling in and out of Turkey. The majority of ISIS oil revenues are derived through the black market in that country. Last June, at its height, a Turkish opposition MP and other sources estimated the annual oil revenues at $800 million. http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/221272-report-isis-oil-production-worth-800m-per-year
If accurate, oil sales was about 40% of the total ISIS operating budget as stated by the group. However, even at its height, petroleum accounted for only a fraction of ISIS funding. Some western estimates placed the IS annual total budget as high as $3 billion. See, http://thehill.com/policy/defense/228465-isis-puts-payments-to-poor-disabled-in-2-billion-budget; http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/isis-news-caliphate-unveils-first-annual-budget-2bn-250m-surplus-war-chest-1481931
The $800 million figure is actually at the top end of the estimates. US sources quoted by CNN last October stated that ISIS oil income was more likely half that figure: http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/06/world/meast/isis-funding/
The U.S. Treasury Department does not have hard figures that it can make public on the group's wealth but says it believes ISIS takes in millions of dollars a month.
Sources familiar with the subject say that ISIS' "burn' rate" -- how much the group spends -- is huge, including salaries, weapons and other expenses. For ISIS' oil sales, sources told CNN, the group probably makes between $1 million and $2 million per day, but probably on the lower end.
Along with everyone else, the returns on ISIS oil are probably a fraction of what they were at the height of world oil prices a year ago. Plus, the US and allies are bombing the group's oil platforms and vehicles. That has cut production and export to the point where US commanders now acknowledged that oil sales aren't the source of most ISIS funds, and that they are coming from donations, "a lot of donations":
The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) is no longer relying on oil as its main source of revenue to fund its terrorist activity, according to the Pentagon.
ISIS loss of income is compounded by its losses on the battlefield as the group has lost literally hundreds and hundreds of vehicles that they cant replace, Kirby said.
Theyve got to steal whatever they want to get, and theres a finite number.
ISIS is instead depending on a lot of donations as one of the main sources of income. They also have a significant black market program going on, Kirby said.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2015/02/05/Pentagon-oil-is-no-longer-ISIS-main-source-of-income-.html
In previous testimony before the Senate, Gen. Depmsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs stated that the source of ISIS funding:
That leaves a big hole in the Caliphate's budget - that gets filled by someone.
Imposition of expanded UN sanctions would entail difficulties and costs for the US, particularly with Saudi Arabia. Therefore, it should not come as a surprise that the Security Counsel measure is limited, and does not yet show if the world is truly serious about eradicating ISIS.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026192755
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)newthinking
(3,982 posts)Of course his work rarely makes the MSM.
The Red Line and the Rat Line
Last May, more than ten members of the al-Nusra Front were arrested in southern Turkey with what local police told the press were two kilograms of sarin. In a 130-page indictment the group was accused of attempting to purchase fuses, piping for the construction of mortars, and chemical precursors for sarin. Five of those arrested were freed after a brief detention. The others, including the ringleader, Haytham Qassab, for whom the prosecutor requested a prison sentence of 25 years, were released pending trial. In the meantime the Turkish press has been rife with speculation that the Erdoğan administration has been covering up the extent of its involvement with the rebels. In a news conference last summer, Aydin Sezgin, Turkeys ambassador to Moscow, dismissed the arrests and claimed to reporters that the recovered sarin was merely anti-freeze.
The DIA paper took the arrests as evidence that al-Nusra was expanding its access to chemical weapons. It said Qassab had self-identified as a member of al-Nusra, and that he was directly connected to Abd-al-Ghani, the ANF emir for military manufacturing. Qassab and his associate Khalid Ousta worked with Halit Unalkaya, an employee of a Turkish firm called Zirve Export, who provided price quotes for bulk quantities of sarin precursors. Abd-al-Ghanis plan was for two associates to perfect a process for making sarin, then go to Syria to train others to begin large scale production at an unidentified lab in Syria. The DIA paper said that one of his operatives had purchased a precursor on the Baghdad chemical market, which has supported at least seven CW efforts since 2004.
A series of chemical weapon attacks in March and April 2013 was investigated over the next few months by a special UN mission to Syria. A person with close knowledge of the UNs activity in Syria told me that there was evidence linking the Syrian opposition to the first gas attack, on 19 March in Khan Al-Assal, a village near Aleppo. In its final report in December, the mission said that at least 19 civilians and one Syrian soldier were among the fatalities, along with scores of injured. It had no mandate to assign responsibility for the attack, but the person with knowledge of the UNs activities said: Investigators interviewed the people who were there, including the doctors who treated the victims. It was clear that the rebels used the gas. It did not come out in public because no one wanted to know.
In the months before the attacks began, a former senior Defense Department official told me, the DIA was circulating a daily classified report known as SYRUP on all intelligence related to the Syrian conflict, including material on chemical weapons. But in the spring, distribution of the part of the report concerning chemical weapons was severely curtailed on the orders of Denis McDonough, the White House chief of staff. Something was in there that triggered a shit fit by McDonough, the former Defense Department official said. One day it was a huge deal, and then, after the March and April sarin attacks he snapped his fingers its no longer there. The decision to restrict distribution was made as the joint chiefs ordered intensive contingency planning for a possible ground invasion of Syria whose primary objective would be the elimination of chemical weapons.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)were basically committing mutiny. This doesn't pass the smell test.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)It explains it in detail.
However, it may be a limited hangout, I wouldn't rule that out.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)I wish Obama kept his own counsel about not doing "stupid shit" and please fire most of those who advise him on foreign affairs. I thought Chuck Hegel was a good choice as SecDef, and he served as a counterweight to Madam Secretary, but Hegel has been replaced at DoD by a string of increasingly arch neocons fullly committed to the regime change agenda.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)the military would undermine the President to this degree. But then I have no idea what Obama was really doing RE Assad, either--totally mixed messages for years. Supposedly all of Obama's 2012 national security people conspired to arm the "moderates" (which incidentally included Dempsey, who suddenly changed his mind in 2013), but Obama said "no" publicly, but then said Assad had to go, but then Obama said he didn't want a proxy war/wasn't going to do regime change, but then got the CIA to arm rebels, etc. etc. Complete confusion in policy.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)extremists, then at some later date acting shocked, SHOCKED that they are extremists and sending in troops (or at least drones) to kill them, leading to absolute chaos and the breakdown of civilization in every country we attack.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)back in 2007 in an article called "The Redirection" in the New Yorker.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)acting as if that's a good thing, which indicates even he doesn't believe his own crap, which as usual is based on a single anonymous source with an axe to grind.
Hersh has been less than worthless for well over a decade. He publishes fanfic not journalism.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)and persuaded him against it, so I don't think it's that unprecedented.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)an elected civilian President's constitutional powers by the uniformed military.
Fortunately, given that it's an article by Hersh published in the past decade, it's completely untrue.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)You have to be specific about what you deem to be "untrue". It is not completely true or untrue, but captures a perspective we're not seeing from many other journalists. Investigative journalism in America is all but dead, today, and it's vital signs are getting flatter.
In a way things are worse today than they were a decade ago - with an obvious idiot and imbecilic ideologue like Bush in office, some in the media still tried to step up. Not now.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Unless these nutty screeds that wouldn't meet the editorial standards of InfoWars are what he wants to be remembered by...
leveymg
(36,418 posts)I agree that his sourcing appears to be less plugged-in than it used to be.