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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 10:54 AM Jan 2016

Fermi, Sinatra, DiMaggio — and Capone

President Obama showcased a Syrian immigrant, Refaai Hamo, during his State of the Union address as evidence of “our diversity and our openness,” qualities that have long defined and sustained the United States.

But given the degree of openness America has offered Syrian refugees over close to five years of war in which a quarter of a million people have been killed, this political choreography qualified as serious chutzpah.

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Immigration is a challenge but also a measure of the confidence of a society, its preparedness for self-renewal. That confidence is low in America right now. “The dignity of a person is untouchable” — so begins Germany’s postwar Constitution, with words drawn from bitter experience. Merkel has shown the conviction that this idea can eventually be absorbed by everyone now in Germany. She will be vindicated.

The United States, between the 1880’s and 1924, admitted about 4 million Italian immigrants. As Leon Wieseltier, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, observed to me, “We got Enrico Fermi, Frank Sinatra, Joe DiMaggio, Antonin Scalia — and Al Capone. Who in their right mind would suggest that the Italian immigration was not a great blessing for our country?”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/15/opinion/fermi-sinatra-dimaggio-and-capone-american-immigration.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

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Fermi, Sinatra, DiMaggio — and Capone (Original Post) bemildred Jan 2016 OP
He has Scalia on the wrong side of the equation. n/t malthaussen Jan 2016 #1
But Fermi I can go with ... bemildred Jan 2016 #2
The Di Maggio boys were good kids. malthaussen Jan 2016 #3
I never liked the way Sinatra treated women. bemildred Jan 2016 #4
Sinatra and Mensch erpowers Jan 2016 #5
Mensch: bemildred Jan 2016 #6

malthaussen

(17,199 posts)
3. The Di Maggio boys were good kids.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:10 AM
Jan 2016

Sinatra I never cared much for, but his appeal to others is undeniable.
And Capone sponsored soup kitchens all over Chicago.

-- Mal

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
4. I never liked the way Sinatra treated women.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:12 AM
Jan 2016

But I'm fussy that way. My wife likes his music.

Edit: DiMaggio was a mensch.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
5. Sinatra and Mensch
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 05:54 PM
Jan 2016

So, did you dislike that Frank Sinatra allegedly slept with a large amount of women, or did he do other bad things to women? I realize I could just google the world, but what is a mensch?

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
6. Mensch:
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 11:16 AM
Jan 2016

Mensch (Yiddish: מענטש? mentsh, cognate with German: Mensch "human being&quot means "a person of integrity and honor."[1] The opposite of a "mensch" is an "unmensch" (meaning: an utterly unlikeable or unfriendly person). According to Leo Rosten, the Yiddish maven and author of The Joys of Yiddish, "mensch" is "someone to admire and emulate, someone of noble character. The key to being 'a real mensch' is nothing less than character, rectitude, dignity, a sense of what is right, responsible, decorous."[2] The term is used as a high compliment, expressing the rarity and value of that individual's qualities.

Is that DiMaggio or what?

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