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The Canary Party and Rob Schneider versus the Vaccine Court: Guess who wins? (Original Post) HuckleB Apr 2016 OP
Scientific Ignorance elljay Apr 2016 #1
"New Seasons," a local version of Whole Foods. sells homeopathic crap in the impulse buy section. HuckleB Apr 2016 #2
I was at CVS elljay Apr 2016 #3
Oh, they are, I'm sure. HuckleB Apr 2016 #4
Overlook all this work? Best of all, no agenda but problem solving. proverbialwisdom Apr 2016 #5
Your anti-vaccine agenda is clear for all to see. HuckleB Apr 2016 #6
Personal attack. Factually inaccurate. Another tedious example of blatant intellectual dishonesty. proverbialwisdom Apr 2016 #7
WTF did I just listen to and what does it have to do with anti-vax cranks? n/t Chan790 Apr 2016 #9
Read the MD survey? Explain how that information fits the thread's simplistic framing & reasoning. proverbialwisdom Apr 2016 #13
Ah, yes, recommend an anti-vaxer's Bible, but pretend you aren't promoting anti-vax views. HuckleB Apr 2016 #15
Yeah, don't expect much wisdom (proverbial or otherwise). progressoid Apr 2016 #18
Derp. HuckleB Apr 2016 #10
How'd you edit the Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:35 PM version on Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:29 AM w/o red type? nt proverbialwisdom Apr 2016 #12
I just edited it. HuckleB Apr 2016 #14
that's right! cranks are only acceptable if they're corporate cranks! MisterP Apr 2016 #8
Derp. HuckleB Apr 2016 #11
Check it out. proverbialwisdom Apr 2016 #16
Your bad propaganda is lame. HuckleB Apr 2016 #17
No, your reading comprehension is. proverbialwisdom Apr 2016 #19
You really think anyone here doesn't know your actual stance on vaccines? HuckleB Apr 2016 #20

elljay

(1,178 posts)
1. Scientific Ignorance
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:31 PM
Apr 2016

drives me crazy. I was just at the drug store and noticed all of the expensive homeopathic medications on the shelves. I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would pay $20 for water, especially when the moon is in Taurus. Really, people, doesn't EVERYBODY know this?



HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
2. "New Seasons," a local version of Whole Foods. sells homeopathic crap in the impulse buy section.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:59 PM
Apr 2016

Near the cashiers. It's lame, and, yes, many people fall for it.

elljay

(1,178 posts)
3. I was at CVS
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:00 PM
Apr 2016

and they have the homeopathic stuff mixed in with the real medications. If you're going to prey on the naïveté of the gluten-free, superfood, anti-vaxxer suburban housewife crowd, at least segregate the patent medicines from the real ones. I imagine a lot of people are unknowingly duped.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
4. Oh, they are, I'm sure.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:03 PM
Apr 2016

I was at Target with my dad, trying to find some allergy eye drops, as directed by my wife. He found some homeopathic product, right next to the ones on my list, and he almost bought it for himself. I bought him the stuff my wife uses.

Ugh.

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
5. Overlook all this work? Best of all, no agenda but problem solving.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:49 AM
Apr 2016
http://www.ageofautism.com/2015/04/tonight-mark-blaxill-and-dan-olmsted-present-vaccines-20-at-taca-pennsylvania-meeting.html

April 03, 2015

Mark Blaxill is the father of a daughter diagnosed with autism, Executive Leadership Team Chairman and co-founder of Health Choice, Chairman and co-founder of the Canary Party, Editor-at-Large for Age of Autism and a frequent speaker at autism conferences. He writes often on autism, science and public policy issues for Age of Autism and has published a number of articles, letters and commentaries on autism in journals such as Public Health Reports, the International Journal of Toxicology, the Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders, Neurotoxicology and Medical Hypotheses. He has also been invited to peer review articles in journals such as the New England Journal of Medicine, the American Journal of Epidemiology, Pediatrics and the International Journal of Toxicology. As part of his advocacy work, he has testified before the Immunization Safety Review of the Institute of Medicine (2001), served on a Blue Ribbon Panel on Vaccine Safety (2004), initiated a symposium sponsored by the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences entitled “Environmental Factors in Neurodevelopmental Disorders” (2005) and a workshop sponsored by the Institute of Medicine entitled “Autism and the Environment: Challenges and Opportunities for Research” (2007). He was a panelist at a “Meeting on Evaluating Reasons for ASD Trends” co-sponsored by the Centers for Disease Control and Autism Speaks (2011) and at a hearing “1 in 88 Children: A Look Into the Federal Response to Rising Rates of Autism” called by the House of Representatives’ Oversight and Government Reform Committee (2012).

He received a bachelor’s degree summa cum laude from the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs at Princeton University and an MBA with distinction from Harvard Business School. In his professional career, he spent 25 years at The Boston Consulting Group, where he was a Senior Vice President. Recently, he co-founded 3LP Advisors, an advisory firm focused on intellectual property transactions, where he is a Managing Partner. He co-authored a book on autism with Dan Olmsted, called The Age of Autism: Mercury, Medicine and a Man-made Epidemic, (Thomas Dunne, September 2010). His new book with Dan, Vaccines 2.0: The Careful Parent’s Guide to Making Safe Vaccination Choices for Your Family (Skyhorse Publishing, February 2015), was released in Febuary.

CURATED NEWS: http://healthchoice.org/index.php/news

http://healthchoice.org/index.php/news/146-utah-whistleblower-lawsuit-alleges-data-errors-and-research-misconduct-as-cdc-report-releases-u-s-autism-rate-of-1-5

Posted on March 31, 2016
by Health Choice
in News

The CDC announced today an autism rate of 1 in 68 children (1.5% of eight year olds surveyed in 2012) for those born in 2004, unchanged from the last reported rate for children born in 2002. Meanwhile, the United States District Court for the District of Utah is preparing to hear critical motions on April 4th from a former CDC researcher and whistleblower. Although the lawsuit is directed primarily to the University of Utah, the whistleblower has also alleged that the CDC’s Autism and Developmental Disabilities Monitoring (ADDM) Network, allowed research misconduct and persistent data errors in their autism prevalence reports. These whistleblower allegations reveal serious concerns over the legitimacy and integrity of the CDC’s management of its widely cited ADDM Network reports.

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In documents filed on January 4, 2016 in the Federal District Court, District of Utah, (Case No. 2:13-cv-1131) the former Principal Investigator for the Utah ADDM Network site, Judith Pinborough-Zimmerman asked for the right to a jury trial to adjudicate a range of claims against her employer, the University of Utah, with respect to Zimmerman’s work as an autism researcher for the ADDM Network...

BLAXILL on Brick Township, NJ: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017183991

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
6. Your anti-vaccine agenda is clear for all to see.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:35 PM
Apr 2016

Stop.

(Age of Autism. Blaxill. The Canary Party. Etc... etc... You utilize anti-vaccine, anti-science links on a regular basis.)

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
13. Read the MD survey? Explain how that information fits the thread's simplistic framing & reasoning.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:27 PM
Apr 2016

That's right, it doesn't. Thwarting #TRANSPARENCY in science is only a temporary fix.

Check out the book, Vaccines 2.0: The Careful Parent’s Guide to Making Safe Vaccination Choices for Your Family (Skyhorse Publishing, February 2015) by Blaxill and Olmsted. It's more similar than different to the views expressed in the survey by AAP subspecialists (official definition: http://www.pedsubs.org/subDes/index.cfm). Whoa, what?

Surprised? Saddened? Stay constructive, just like the song.

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
16. Check it out.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:10 PM
Apr 2016

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HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
20. You really think anyone here doesn't know your actual stance on vaccines?
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:16 AM
Apr 2016

Why do you try to pretend? It makes no sense.

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