They’re still not telling the real story: Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders, and the analysis..

[silvershadow]

SATURDAY, MAY 7, 2016 09:30 AM EDT

They’re still not telling the real story: Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders, and the analysis you won’t hear on cable news

From Fox News to MSNBC, the pundits are too obsessed with this very second to notice the massive changes underfoot
PAUL ROSENBERG

After every presidential primary, we were treated to a new round of conventional wisdom about what things mean for both parties going forward. Yet, there’s every reason to be deeply skeptical of these discussions among people who never saw either Donald Trump or Bernie Sanders coming. They represent a chattering class that both expected and normalized a “war of dynasties” between Bushes and the Clintons, then marveled at the “depth” of the Republican bench, and spent months obsessing over whether Joe Biden would run, as if he were a figure of mythic proportions.

You can laugh, if you want, but the out-of-touch nature of these treasured campaign narratives now lives on in a new form: an obsessive focus on this election cycle, when, if anything, the one thing it has to tell us is that much larger, long-range changes are afoot, and have been creeping up on us, below the radar, for quite some time. If you’re going to cover politics almost exclusively as a horse race, it makes perfect sense, of course. But that narrow-minded focus is an integral part of the very system that voters are furiously struggling to reject.

More than ever, we have to ask, why should the conventions or the elections be the framework for all we think? Even if Trump’s presidential run ends ruinously in November, Trumpism will remain, along with the GOP’s profound vulnerability to the forces Trump has unleashed. Similarly, even if Sanders fails to overtake Clinton’s delegate lead, his voters clearly represent the future of the Democratic Party, and Stan Greenberg, pollster for both Bill Clinton and Al Gore, seems justified in his warning last October that it’s a mistake for Democrats to run for Obama’s “third term.” “That’s not what the country wants. It’s not what the base of the Democratic Party wants. The Democratic Party is waiting for a president who will articulate the scale of the problems we face and challenge them to address it,” he said.

So party leaders on both sides—as well as bipartisan media figures—are simply whistling past the graveyard, perhaps with a slightly different tune just now, but still deeply devoted to reporting, analyzing and discussing things in a way that avoids as long as possible the profound changes that are clearly under way, and the equally profound changes that people are hungry for.

more: http://www.salon.com/2016/05/07/theyre_still_not_telling_the_real_story_donald_trump_bernie_sanders_and_the_analysis_you_wont_hear_on_cable_news/

[Trust Buster]

1. Trump is preaching hate and division while Sanders is shamelessly pandering by promising

trillions in spending that he knows he can't deliver. That's all there is to it.

[Ferretherder]

3. You sure you're on the right forum?

I'm sure there are plenty of libertarian sites on the intertube looking for a dude/dudette like you.

[Trust Buster]

4. Yep, I know what forum I'm on. What I said about Trump and Sanders is totally accurate. Thank you

[AlbertCat]

9. What I said about Trump and Sanders is totally accurate.

As accurate as any bumper sticker, thank you.

[JDPriestly]

7. Bernie is not promising anything that isn't already reality in most of Northern Europe

starting with Austria on up and with Germany on West.

His "promises" are not that shocking.

We already pay for health insurance. Bernie's plan will make it cheaper on an individual level. That is evident when you compare the cost of healthcare in the US to its cost in countries that have universal, single payer insurance in one form or another.

We already pay for state college tuition. It's just matter of how and during what part of a student's life we will pay for it. Bernie's plan of funding the schools rather than loaning to students will save a lot administrative costs and place the focus on education rather than on whether a student who has the academic standing to go to college or the technical ability in some non-academic field has the money to pay for education or training.

Bernie was mayor of Burlington, Vermont for eight years and has served in Congress since around 1992 including on the Banking Committee in his early period in Congress and now on the Budget, Environmental and Veterans' Affairs committees. He is not making empty promises. In his book, Outsider in the White House he lists many budget items that could be cut at considerable saving to the American taxpayers.

And none of those cuts will harm poor people.

[AlbertCat]

8. That's all there is to it.

You left out Clinton and her offering of the same crap that hasn't been working for the last 30 years.

[Squinch]

2. Still shilling for Trump, I see.

[oldandhappy]

5. got tired of blab,, stopped watching

The talking heads can't tell us -- they don't know or are bound by their own loyalty oaths. Stop expecting serious info. Go You Tube. Great alternate media on YT.

[elleng]

6. Here too,

with a bit more appreciation:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280192547