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Zorro

(15,724 posts)
Tue May 24, 2016, 06:31 PM May 2016

Can Bernie Sanders actually hurt Hillary Clinton on his way out?

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are now in an extended process of negotiating the terms of his surrender. But I’m beginning to wonder if Sanders understands just how few cards he has left to play.

Yesterday, the DNC announced the makeup of the committee that will decide the party’s platform, with Clinton choosing six members, Sanders choosing five, and party chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz choosing four. Clinton chose the kind of people you might expect, covering bases with the party’s key constituencies — a union leader, a prominent Latino congressman, the chief of a liberal think tank — while Sanders picked mostly activists who could be considered outsiders (although his inclusion of Cornel West, among the harshest African-American critics of President Obama, could be seen as a rather curious middle finger to the Democratic Party’s leader and most popular figure).

So now that’s settled, and even if the committee has some spirited arguments, most Democrats, not to mention most Americans, aren’t going to be all that concerned with what’s in the platform, an almost entirely symbolic document. We can ask what else Bernie Sanders wants, and the answer is less than clear. He’d obviously like to influence Clinton’s eventual presidency, with input on appointments and policy choices. The problem is that at this point, he has almost nothing left to bargain with.

We tend to talk in vague terms about things like “unity,” so it’s helpful to get as specific as we can. Sanders can no longer beat Clinton. So let’s say he feels that he’s not getting what he wants out of this negotiation. What can he do to force her to be more accommodating to him? There are really only two things: Cause some kind of disruption at the convention, which will look bad for Clinton. Tell his supporters not to vote for her.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/05/24/can-bernie-sanders-actually-hurt-hillary-clinton-on-his-way-out

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Can Bernie Sanders actually hurt Hillary Clinton on his way out? (Original Post) Zorro May 2016 OP
Sanders is a politician. He will do the right thing. Tal Vez May 2016 #1
Depends on how EdwardBernays May 2016 #4
I sincerely doubt it. Warpy May 2016 #2
Bernie can only make himself look bad. The more he demands, the further away she'll turn. LuvLoogie May 2016 #3
OUT? He will be in the Senate until he retires larkrake May 2016 #5
"Demonic side"? Zorro May 2016 #7
jobs at McDonalds is not a job larkrake May 2016 #8
Thoroughly myopic OP, causally dismissing over 9 million people who voted for Sanders in the JumpinJehosaphat May 2016 #6

Tal Vez

(660 posts)
1. Sanders is a politician. He will do the right thing.
Tue May 24, 2016, 06:36 PM
May 2016

Sanders cares about the legacy that he leaves and he cares about how his campaign is remembered by history. He will do the right thing. And, his real supporters will also do the right thing. The people who support Trump in November will be the people who have always supported Trump.

Warpy

(111,172 posts)
2. I sincerely doubt it.
Tue May 24, 2016, 06:37 PM
May 2016

Most of his efforts will go toward modifying some of her stances, particularly her economic stances.

After the convention, expect him to campaign for her. It's what Democrats do.

LuvLoogie

(6,936 posts)
3. Bernie can only make himself look bad. The more he demands, the further away she'll turn.
Tue May 24, 2016, 06:40 PM
May 2016

Democratic Solidarity is stronger than The BerniePalooza.

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
5. OUT? He will be in the Senate until he retires
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:12 PM
May 2016

you thought this exercise was for the presidency? Hell no, he woke up the apathetic millions, and offered them a path through all the obstacles both parties have erected.If Trump is elected, there will be a huge revolution, if Hill is elected, it might fizzle, but people are aware of her demonic side now, her history and bad ethics. There is nothing the Partys can offer the youth to numb them, no jobs, no future, just growing debt.

Zorro

(15,724 posts)
7. "Demonic side"?
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:55 PM
May 2016

Why use such pejorative language?

And no jobs? No future? Thought I heard just the other day that unemployment is down to 5%.

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
8. jobs at McDonalds is not a job
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:04 AM
May 2016

and the 5% is not real as you well know. "demonic" is an extreme discription, I give you that. Toxic is more in line

JumpinJehosaphat

(22 posts)
6. Thoroughly myopic OP, causally dismissing over 9 million people who voted for Sanders in the
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:47 PM
May 2016

primary. There are significant differences between Clinton and Sanders and their respective approaches to politics. That is why Sanders came from nowhere and accumulated over 45% of the vote. It has been an amazing campaign that has given voice to many millions who hope for progressive change. This new model of campaigning and fundraising will continue to grow despite the wishes of Clinton or the Democratic establishment and unfortunately too many of her supporters here on DU.

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