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midnight

(26,624 posts)
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:49 PM Jun 2016

Greg Palast investigative reporter talks about California being stolen away from Bernie.

Los Angeles] It's not some grand conspiracy, but it's grand theft nonetheless. Sen. Bernie Sanders’ voters will lose their ballots, their rights, by the tens of thousands.

Purged Voters
The steal is baked into the way California handles No Party Preference –"NPP" voters –what we know as "independents."

There are a mind-blowing 4.2 million voters in California registered NPP – and they share a love for sunshine and Bernie Sanders. According to the reliable Golden State poll, among NPP voters, Sen. Sanders whoops Sec. Hillary Clinton by a stunning 40 percentage points.



On the other team, registered Democrats prefer Clinton by a YUGE 30 points. NPP's can vote in the Democratic primary, so, the California primary comes down to a fight between D's and NPP's.
And there's the rub. In some counties like Los Angeles, it's not easy for an NPP to claim their right vote in the Democratic primary – and in other counties, nearly impossible.





http://www.gregpalast.com/california-stolen-sanders-right-nowspecial-bulletin-greg-palast/

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Greg Palast investigative reporter talks about California being stolen away from Bernie. (Original Post) midnight Jun 2016 OP
really ? DURHAM D Jun 2016 #1
... 840high Jun 2016 #2
Thanks for this information…. midnight Jun 2016 #4
My pleasure. 840high Jun 2016 #6
No one should be disenfranchised....BUT apcalc Jun 2016 #3
Voting rights seem to take a back seat to all kinds of nonsense. midnight Jun 2016 #5
It is very simple to change registration. I did it last July. apcalc Jun 2016 #8
"There are a mind-blowing 4.2 million voters in California registered NPP – and they share a love midnight Jun 2016 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Joe Chi Minh Jun 2016 #10
Both parties are an anachronism. clg311 Jun 2016 #7
It's easy enough to dispose of a party. Igel Jun 2016 #9
Bernie is preparing the young voters to get a foot in the fast closing door of having a voice. midnight Jun 2016 #12
 

840high

(17,196 posts)
2. ...
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:55 PM
Jun 2016

Wednesday's big question: How many uncounted California ballots ...
www.latimes.com/.../la-pol-ca-california-primary-wed...
Los Angeles Times
50 mins ago - The two Democrats will face off in a November runoff . .... County election officials have until July 5 to submit their final results for presidential .

apcalc

(4,462 posts)
3. No one should be disenfranchised....BUT
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:02 PM
Jun 2016

An informed voter could have registered or re-registered as a Democrat ahead of time, based on California law, to avoid the problem .

(It isn't like the presidential primary is a surprise.
Maybe registering as NPP in California is not really a good idea?)

Voting is a right AND a responsibility. It is part of your job as a voter to find this stuff out beforehand.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
5. Voting rights seem to take a back seat to all kinds of nonsense.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:09 PM
Jun 2016

I'm not sure how informed I would been, if I had to jump through those situations.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
11. "There are a mind-blowing 4.2 million voters in California registered NPP – and they share a love
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:04 PM
Jun 2016

for sunshine and Bernie Sanders. According to the reliable Golden State poll, among NPP voters, Sen. Sanders whoops Sec. Hillary Clinton by a stunning 40 percentage points."


http://www.gregpalast.com/california-stolen-sanders-right-nowspecial-bulletin-greg-palast/

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clg311

(119 posts)
7. Both parties are an anachronism.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:42 PM
Jun 2016

And hostile to democracy. Of course like corrupt dictators they will do everything in their power to keep the current system in place.

Igel

(35,282 posts)
9. It's easy enough to dispose of a party.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 10:55 AM
Jun 2016

It's been done repeatedly.

Found one with an agenda that people prefer to the others. It's not that hard to qualify to be on the primary ballot--it's just that most smaller parties don't hold votes for deciding their party nominee and so there's no primary for them, or they do it in a lower-key way.

Currently, most Americans still belong to one or another. Or as a protest refuse to be in either. Both are decent choices, but don't protest and then say, "I refuse to be a _____, but I want to help decide that party's nominee." People like rights without any of the duties or obligations that go with with. Infantilized and spoiled, all rights and no obligations (obligations are for the other people, who are thereby enserfed).

Or do you mean "all parties are an anachronism"? I doubt most would agree with that.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
12. Bernie is preparing the young voters to get a foot in the fast closing door of having a voice.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:31 PM
Jun 2016

I believe this is why being involved is important.

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