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Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 06:54 PM Nov 2016

Republicans are now vowing Total War. And the consequences could be immense

.. with Trump's "leadership" Republicans are regressing into childhood. They are feeling if things don't turn out the way THEY want it's okay for them to burn down the house. Republicans have always acted like self pitying children but now with the Donald's spoiled rich kid encouragement this aberration of personality is getting even worse.



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The election is just five days away, and something truly frightening is happening, something with far-reaching implications for the immediate future of American politics. Republicans, led by Donald Trump but by no means limited to him, are engaging in kind of termite-level assault on American democracy, one that looks on the surface as though it’s just aimed at Hillary Clinton, but in fact is undermining our entire system.

I know, my conservative friends will say that this kind of talk is just fear-mongering and exaggeration. But there is something deeply troubling happening right now, and it goes beyond the ordinary trading of blows in a campaign season. Consider these recent developments:

[font size="6"].[/font] There appears to be a war going on inside the FBI, and from what we can tell, a group of rogue agents, mostly in New York, may be in such a fervor to destroy Hillary Clinton that they may be aggressively leaking damaging innuendo to the press against her in the waning days of the campaign. They succeeded in their apparent goal of making FBI director James Comey a tool of their campaign — and the basis for their investigation is an anti-Clinton book written under the auspices of an organization of which the CEO of the Trump campaign is co-founder and chairman. Pro-Trump FBI agents now seem to be coordinating with Trump surrogates to do maximal possible damage to Clinton.

[font size="6"].[/font] Republicans continue to cheer the fact that the electronic systems of American political groups were illegally hacked, and then private communications were selectively released in order to do damage to one side in this election. The Republican nominee has explicitly asked a hostile foreign power to hack into his opponent’s electronic systems.

[font size="6"].[/font] High-ranking Republican officeholders are now suggesting that they may impeach Clinton as soon as she takes office. These are not just backbench nutbars of the Louie Gohmert variety, but people with genuine power, including Ron Johnson, the senator from Wisconsin, Michael McCaul, the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, and veteran legislators like James Sensenbrenner and Peter King. The message is being echoed by top Trump surrogates like Rudy Giuliani.

[font size="6"].[/font] There is a growing movement among Republicans in the Senate to simply refuse to approve any nominee appointed by a Democratic president to the Supreme Court, leaving open any and all vacancies until a Republican can be elected to fill them.

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C_U_L8R

(44,998 posts)
2. The final throes
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 06:58 PM
Nov 2016

It sure is ugly to see but Republicans are going down by their own boneheaded hatespittled overreach.

marybourg

(12,620 posts)
4. Fascism. As soon as we no longer
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 07:03 PM
Nov 2016

felt secure behind our two large oceans, we became just as prone to fascism as any banana republic. So much for American Exceptionalism.

Nitram

(22,791 posts)
5. First of all, moving to impeach Clinton without the votes to do so would be a yuuuge mistake.
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:02 AM
Nov 2016

They would expose themselves as total assholes and then they'd get punked. If Democrats have a majority in the Senate, some rule changes will be in order to sweep away filibusters and other obstructions. Two problems with the Supreme Court strategy. First, the Liberal agenda is more likely to benefit from the current lineup than the conservative agenda. Secondly, the midterm elections could go in the Democratic Party's favor if the GOP refuses to approve any nominations after saying they'd wait until after the election. Liberal Super PACs should flood the airwaves with the unconstitutional and duplicitous partisan stance of the GOP House.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
6. Republicans will make such a move even if it's impossible to achieve. THey just want to create the
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 04:04 PM
Nov 2016
impression that it is realistic to consider impeachment. Same thing with the "dishonesty" or "liar" meme. By conducting a non stop Benghazi series of hearings always asking questions of the order "what did she know?","when did she know it?"... and of course:"why didn't she tell us of IT?" - it doesn't matter that the existence of an 'IT' was never proven. Among the non-thinking portion of the population (what are Trump's poll numbers, ~38-40%) and the media, who don't think AND don't care if what they are all talking about has any basis in reality (they're job is to draw eyeballs for ratings), if it's being talked about by the media - "IT" must be real!

So, by (endlessly) talking about impeachment they are suggesting to the vacant minded - over time - that there must be a real reason for thinking of impeaching her!

IT's a variatioin of the Big Lie principle. Just keep talking about winged Pigs (don't assert it. just keep talking about it as if it is real and there is no disagreement as to it's reality) as if they are real and eventually a good portion of the population will start to believe Pigs CAN fly. (of course, you have to have a compliant and complicit media to make this work - Obviously, that's not a problem for the GOP.

Nitram

(22,791 posts)
7. True, but I'm saying they will be shooting themselves in the foot when they do.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 12:12 PM
Nov 2016

My right wing father got weekly mail from Judicial Watch promising that if he would jut send $15 more they would be able to file the "final" papers to start Obama's impeachment. It's a money-raising scam. But it only impresses the most deplorable of the deplorable. Loses votes in the long run.

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