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riversedge

(70,175 posts)
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 05:40 PM Dec 2016

Seduced and Betrayed by Donald Trump-Supporters soon to lose Obamacare, Medicare

Good to the point article.



http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/02/opinion/seduced-and-betrayed-by-donald-trump.html?action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&module=Trending&version=Full&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article


Seduced and Betrayed by Donald Trump



Paul Krugman DEC. 2, 2016

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Yes, the white working class is about to be betrayed.

The evidence of that coming betrayal is obvious in the choice of an array of pro-corporate, anti-labor figures for key positions. In particular, the most important story of the week — seriously, people, stop focusing on Trump Twitter — was the selection of Tom Price, an ardent opponent of Obamacare and advocate of Medicare privatization, as secretary of health and human services. This choice probably means that the Affordable Care Act is doomed — and Mr. Trump’s most enthusiastic supporters will be among the biggest losers.

The first thing you need to understand here is that Republican talk of “repeal and replace” has always been a fraud. The G.O.P. has spent six years claiming that it will come up with a replacement for Obamacare any day now; the reason it hasn’t delivered is that it can’t.

Obamacare looks the way it does because it has to: You can’t cover Americans with pre-existing conditions without requiring healthy people to sign up, and you can’t do that without subsidies to make insurance affordable.

Any replacement will either look a lot like Obamacare, or take insurance away from millions who desperately need it.

What the choice of Mr. Price suggests is that the Trump administration is, in fact, ready to see millions lose insurance. And many of those losers will be Trump supporters.

You can see why by looking at Census data from 2013 to 2015, which show the impact of the full implementation of Obamacare. Over that period, the number of uninsured Americans dropped by 13 million; whites without a college degree, who voted Trump by around two to one, accounted for about eight million of that decline. So we’re probably looking at more than five million Trump supporters, many of whom have chronic health problems and recently got health insurance for the first time, who just voted to make their lives nastier, more brutish, and shorter.

Why did they do it? .............

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Seduced and Betrayed by Donald Trump-Supporters soon to lose Obamacare, Medicare (Original Post) riversedge Dec 2016 OP
Medicaid is definitely on the chopping block. Not sure Medicare will go. dhol82 Dec 2016 #1
Nope. All of that crap is DOA. Ryan is full of blustering shit. n/t duffyduff Dec 2016 #5
Yes. WHY the FUCK did they do it? inanna Dec 2016 #2
They must be... wcmagumba Dec 2016 #3
Recommended. But the GOP strategists are probably working on the plan to blame guillaumeb Dec 2016 #4
it is even worse mercuryblues Dec 2016 #6
yes. I read about that a few days ago. damn! riversedge Dec 2016 #7
I want to say it serves them right but we all get hurt in the long run. CTyankee Dec 2016 #8

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
1. Medicaid is definitely on the chopping block. Not sure Medicare will go.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 05:44 PM
Dec 2016

Lots of seniors with clout will be really pissy.
They have tried before and failed.
Hope it comes out the same this time.

wcmagumba

(2,882 posts)
3. They must be...
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 05:48 PM
Dec 2016

Stupid, uninformed, haters (take your pick, women, minorities, lgbt, religious and many others), brainwashed by RW "news" and other categories. Sad...

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
4. Recommended. But the GOP strategists are probably working on the plan to blame
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 05:50 PM
Dec 2016

President Obama for this also.

mercuryblues

(14,526 posts)
6. it is even worse
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 05:58 PM
Dec 2016

Cost saving measures for Medicare and Medicaid are tied to the ACA. When the ACA goes so will the savings seniors have been seeing. Trump voters are willing to pay more for medical treatment as long as those moochers don't get anything.


https://www.cms.gov/apps/files/ACA-savings-report-2012.pdf

CTyankee

(63,899 posts)
8. I want to say it serves them right but we all get hurt in the long run.
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 05:47 PM
Dec 2016

I have a daughter who will be hurt if Obamacare goes away. but she lives in Cali so the state insurance plan for people with limited means can pick her and her family up.

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