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kebob

(499 posts)
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 10:50 AM Dec 2016

It Begins: Vulnerable Senate Democrats rush to slam anti-Donald Trump plans

Last edited Wed Dec 7, 2016, 02:13 AM - Edit history (1)

From Salon:

While many Democrats prepare to fight Trump, some facing re-election in 2018 are already willing to appease him.

While congressional Democrats were certainly slow to come to grips with Donald Trump’s election and therefore appeared hesitant to back the calls for resistance that flooded the streets in major American cities in the immediate aftermath, they’ve since embraced their role as the loyal opposition.But even as most Senate Democrats gear up for confirmation battles with a whole host of questionable Trump Cabinet picks, some of their Democratic colleagues are already willing to kowtow to the president-elect’s most fundamental decisions.
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Still, nearly all the five Democratic senators facing re-election in 2018 in states that strongly supported Trump — by 19 percentage points or more — apparently disagree with their more progressive colleagues and have rushed to signal their willingness to cooperate with the new regime.

“That’s just bullshit,” West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin, whose state supported Trump by 42 percent, said of his fellow Democrats’ strategy of opposition. “I’m going to help [Trump] when I can. But I’m going to be holding him accountable when I need to,” he added.
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North Dakota Sen. Heidi Heitkamp was quick to suggest that she is ready to work with Republicans on legislation to invest in “clean coal” technologies, as she praised a decision to boot oil pipeline protesters from Standing Rock. Heitkamp was one of the first Democrats to meet with the president-elect and his transition team at Trump Tower last week. Trump won North Dakota by more than 36 points and there’s speculation he is considering Heitkamp for secretary of agriculture or energy.

http://www.salon.com/2016/12/05/deals-with-the-devil-vulnerable-senate-democrats-rush-to-slam-anti-donald-trump-plans/


Other dinos include Sens. Joe Donnelly of Indiana, Jon Tester of Montana, and Bob Casey of Pennsylvania. And I predict every one if these cowards will suffer the same fate 23 months from now as the Democrats who distanced themselves from President Obama in 2014.

*Cross-Posted to GD.
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It Begins: Vulnerable Senate Democrats rush to slam anti-Donald Trump plans (Original Post) kebob Dec 2016 OP
lol Heidi ..... JHan Dec 2016 #1
What's that phrase President Truman said? n2doc Dec 2016 #7
Thank God - I love me some Sherrod Brown. CincyDem Dec 2016 #2
They can't see that two years from now, being a Trump collaborator lagomorph777 Dec 2016 #3
Shame on them. MBS Dec 2016 #4
IF heaven05 Dec 2016 #5
I worry about that, too. MBS Dec 2016 #10
yep. n2doc Dec 2016 #6
To quote Neville Chamberlain Binkie The Clown Dec 2016 #8
"I for one, welcome the dark overlord" Lucky Luciano Dec 2016 #9
This is a win-win. TygrBright Dec 2016 #11
A Dem who won't or cannot stand up to this outrageous SHIT is no dem at all. BigDemVoter Dec 2016 #12

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
7. What's that phrase President Truman said?
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 12:48 PM
Dec 2016

“If a voter has a choice between a Republican and a Democrat who acts like a Republican, he’ll vote for the Republican every time.”
--Harry S. Truman, former U.S. President

CincyDem

(7,295 posts)
2. Thank God - I love me some Sherrod Brown.
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 10:56 AM
Dec 2016

It always befuddles me that the same state that re elects Rob Portman has also given us Sherrod Brown.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
3. They can't see that two years from now, being a Trump collaborator
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 11:07 AM
Dec 2016

will be electoral death in almost any state? He will have created so much chaos that even Trump Chumps won't be able to ignore it.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
4. Shame on them.
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 11:22 AM
Dec 2016

Really stupid of them, too. To the extent that Trump currently may be "popular" in their respective states (and I really have my doubts, especially about Pennsylvania), that "popularity" will not last. By 2018, God and finally-awakened voters willing, he will be even more of a liability than he is now.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
5. IF
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 11:37 AM
Dec 2016

we last that long to 2018. America has managed to muddle through before, I just hope we can without to much damage internally or coming from external sources.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
10. I worry about that, too.
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 09:54 PM
Dec 2016

This is the first time in my life that I've been truly terrified about my country's future. What scares me most is that too many of our fellow citizens don't seem to understand what they've done.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
8. To quote Neville Chamberlain
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 01:15 PM
Dec 2016

Peace in our time.

Anyone who studies history knows that all civilizations eventually fall. We have the misfortune to be witnessing the fall of our own civilization. So sad.

TygrBright

(21,269 posts)
11. This is a win-win.
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 01:34 PM
Dec 2016

If the Democratic Party stands for a philosophy and guiding principles focused on how a government of, for, and most of all, BY the People can increase equity, ensure justice, and build a better world for future generations, then we need to stand or fall by those principles.

If any part of those principles (the notion that government is a positive tool that can and SHOULD function to increase equity, ensure justice, and build a better world, for instance) is inimical to our own party leaders and/or elected officials, the Party should allow those party leaders and officials who have compromised those principles in order to gain access to elected office and its powers to stand or fall based on their own agendas.

If they manage to stand, on an agenda that is inimical to the Party's core principles, the label "Democrat" becomes tainted by their agenda, but in turn, they either have to accept Party caucus discipline (to an extent) or they should be encouraged to re-label themselves as Republicans or whatever other Party is more in line with their agenda. It's a messier win, played out over a longer time, at a higher cost, but still a win.

If they fall, their seat goes to an actual Republican. We haven't really lost anything in the long term since we'll either not have any actual democratic process or democracy remaining until after the current putsch has been countered, or the electorate will use the fading rags of democratic process and democracy to kick the Republican Party to the curb in no uncertain terms, and then we don't have those artificial "Democrats" to impede the process of cleaning up the mess, and we win again.

Carry on, people.

wearily,
Bright

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