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inanna

(3,547 posts)
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 05:19 PM Dec 2016

10 years ago Trump would have faced a treason trial after being co-opted by Putin

17 Dec 2016 at 11:31 ET

Appearing on MSNBC’s AM Joy, an intelligence expert flatly stated that 10 years ago President-elect Donald Trump would be facing a treason trial instead of his inauguration over his embrace of Russian strongman Vladimir Putin..

With host Joy Reid warning that Trump might turn Voice of America into a “Putin-like media outlet,” guest Malcolm Nance said the problem goes far beyond that.

“I’m not sure he [Trump] has heard of Voice of America, that’s not a joke,” Nance said. “Let’s not laugh at it, it’s actually scary. But for the most part, if he finds out that he can have his own version of Russia Today, his own version of Sputnik, two propaganda arms that took over from the Soviet Union’s Pravda, it could be exceptionally damaging.”

“But I want to come to a point that was made a little bit earlier,” he added. “When did all of this happen to Donald Trump, right? He met Gorbachev. He was a big supporter of glasnost. At some point, he was co-opted by Vladimir Putin. and that means he bought into and embraced the dictatorial ideology that was done by a spy master of the KGB. Ten years ago, 20 years ago,there would be treason trials. I would like to bring one point up. because long ago there was a guy named Yuri Bezmenov, a KGB officer, and he wrote,’This is who the KGB targeted and recruited, egocentric people who lack moral principles and who are too greedy or who suffer from exaggerated self-importance. These are the people the KGB wants and finds easiest to recruit.'”

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http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/intelligence-expert-10-years-ago-trump-would-have-faced-a-treason-trial-after-being-co-opted-by-putin/

Video at link.

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10 years ago Trump would have faced a treason trial after being co-opted by Putin (Original Post) inanna Dec 2016 OP
Well Cheney and Libby didn't for outing Plame benld74 Dec 2016 #1
Exactly - KT2000 Dec 2016 #2
IOKIYAR 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2016 #3
He supported glasnost'. Igel Dec 2016 #4
List of those never charged with treason: onenote Dec 2016 #5
Just having a man-crush on a Russian strongman isn't enough for a treason rap jmowreader Dec 2016 #6

KT2000

(20,568 posts)
2. Exactly -
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 05:56 PM
Dec 2016

I could understand if trump voters were all 10 years old but these were adults who have sold out this country. I cannot figure out what they were thinking and it is obvious Democrats cannot find common ground with these aliens. This is what passes for patriotism??

Igel

(35,274 posts)
4. He supported glasnost'.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 01:12 PM
Dec 2016

But when he saw what happened under Yeltsin he became quasi-Russian in outlook: What's the use of democracy if the country's unstable, corrupt, violent?

(Throw in obsession over grievances and the view that outsiders are out to get the US and are denying it its proper place in the world and you've nicely mirrored Xi and Putin's views. Stability over freedom, don't get taken advantage of by all those damned foreigners. Yes, traits shared by fascism, but fascism also sent kids to public school and liked public transportation so you can't read too much into a few traits. What's needed is authoritarianism, which suits Xi and Putin just fine, but it's unclear wrt Trump.)

onenote

(42,585 posts)
5. List of those never charged with treason:
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 02:55 AM
Dec 2016

The Rosenbergs
Aldrich Ames
Robert Hanssen
Edward Snowden
Chelsea Manning

And this "expert" thinks Trump would've been charged with "treason"? He's delusional.

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
6. Just having a man-crush on a Russian strongman isn't enough for a treason rap
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 05:25 AM
Dec 2016

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_convicted_of_treason, only 14 people in the history of the United States have been convicted of that crime.

Come on, guys: if they didn't charge any of the Cold War spies with treason when they CLEARLY provided aid and comfort to the enemy, they wouldn't have charged Trump with it either. Also, 20 years ago Trump wouldn't have aligned himself with Russia in the first place: Trump's only interest in that nation was borrowing their money, and Soviet rubles would have been worthless to him.

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