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riversedge

(70,233 posts)
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 05:04 PM Jan 2017

RATED FALSE!! Reality Check: Trump on 96 million out of the job market (LIED during "news" conf)

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Trump news conference: CNN's Reality Check team vets the claims

By CNN's Reality Check Team

Updated 3:00 PM ET, Wed January 11, 2017

(CNN)President-elect Donald Trump on Wednesday held his first news conference since winning the election, and CNN's Reality Check Team vetted his statements.



Employment[/Reality Check: Trump on 96 million out of the job market

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/11/politics/donald-trump-news-conference-fact-check/index.html

By Patrick Gillespie and Tami Luhby, CNN



Trump cited a false statistic to cast the job market as weaker than it truly is.
"Ninety-six million really wanting a job and they can't get. You know that story. The real number. That's the real number," he said in defense of his plan to implement a border tax to keep American companies from moving jobs outside the US.


Here's the real deal on that stat: Some 93.8 million people are not in the labor force, but the vast majority of them don't want a job, according to the most recent quarterly data from the Atlanta Federal Reserve. Some 44 million are retired, 15.3 million are disabled, 13.3 million are taking care of a family member and another 13.2 million are in college or job training. They are listed as not wanting a job.



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What is the 'real' unemployment rate?
A wider measure of unemployment includes people who've left the labor force but want a job, and part-timers who want full-time positions. Altogether, these three types of job-seekers total about 16 million, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics data.
Because 16 million is a far cry from 96 million, we rate Trump's claim as false.

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RATED FALSE!! Reality Check: Trump on 96 million out of the job market (LIED during "news" conf) (Original Post) riversedge Jan 2017 OP
Trumps absurd claim that 92 million Americans represent a nation of jobless Americans Gothmog Jan 2017 #1
Right-Wing Economy Myths: Labor Force Participation Gothmog Jan 2017 #2
oh Donald, FAKE NEWS!!! Bill USA Jan 2017 #5
Simple math made that number impossible Phoenix61 Jan 2017 #3
This is the GOP's favorite Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #4
I've heard pillboy Limbaugh talk up numbers like that.... Bengus81 Jan 2017 #6

Gothmog

(145,265 posts)
1. Trumps absurd claim that 92 million Americans represent a nation of jobless Americans
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 05:27 PM
Jan 2017

I keep hearing this sad talking point from right wingers . Here is an earlier debunking of this idiotic talking point https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/09/16/trumps-absurb-claim-that-92-million-americans-represent-a-nation-of-jobless-americans/?tid=pm_politics_pop_b

“Right now, 92 million Americans are on the sideline outside of the workforce, and they’re not a part of our economy. It’s a silent nation of jobless Americans.”

— Donald Trump, speech to the Economic Club of New York, Sept. 15, 2016


Trump is grabbing onto a GOP talking point that first emerged in 2014 when the official unemployment rate starting falling below 7 percent. (It is now 4.9 percent.) Republicans started citing a decline in the labor participation rate, which has occurred largely because the baby boom generation has begun to retire.

But here, Trump expresses the rate as a raw number (“92 million Americans”) and then amps up the rhetoric by referring to a “nation of jobless Americans.” But this is rhetorical poppycock, as we will demonstrate.....

The Pinocchio Test

As you can see, it is absurd to claim that 94 million Americans are on the sidelines of the economy and are part of a “jobless America.” You can’t be jobless if you don’t want a job.

Only a small percentage of these people want a job, as the rest are retired, in school, on disability or caring for children. No matter how much Trump wants to suggest the economy is on the rocks, the fact remains that the unemployment rate is below 5 percent — which is pretty good by any measure.

Four Pinocchios

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
3. Simple math made that number impossible
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 05:31 PM
Jan 2017

320 million people in the US / 2 = 160 million people want a job but 96 million of them don't have one. That puts the unemployment rate at over 50%, higher than the great depression. I tried to explain that to people and their eyes glazed over. I'm not sure half them people in the US want as job as that includes birth to last breath.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
6. I've heard pillboy Limbaugh talk up numbers like that....
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 09:11 AM
Jan 2017

And that was long before Trump came on the scene. That's it Trump...count ten year old kids as unemployed.

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