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Seedersandleechers

(3,044 posts)
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 06:33 AM Mar 2017

The Trump Experiment may come to an early tipping point

President Trump’s astonishing and reckless accusation that he was wiretapped on orders from President Barack Obama should finally be the tipping point in how the country views him and his presidency.

Obama, through a spokesman, said the charges were “simply false.” On Sunday afternoon, the New York Times reported that FBI Director James Comey had asked the Justice Department to publicly reject Trump’s claim. It appears that Trump issued his wild tweet storm Saturday morning largely on the basis of reports in conspiracy-minded right-wing media.

He signaled his lack of evidence first by reportedly pushing his White House staff to ransack sensitive intelligence information to find support for his claim. Then on Sunday, White House press secretary Sean Spicer said Trump wanted Congress to look into the matter and that the administration would offer no further comment.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-trump-experiment-may-come-to-an-early-tipping-point/2017/03/05/87d38b3a-0055-11e7-99b4-9e613afeb09f_story.html?utm_term=.7526f3d8554f

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The Trump Experiment may come to an early tipping point (Original Post) Seedersandleechers Mar 2017 OP
Yes, this is a tipping point Doodley Mar 2017 #1
Weather forecasting is my tipping point vlyons Mar 2017 #2
Ignorance is bliss-Trump is nocalflea Mar 2017 #5
Welcome to DU, nocalflea! calimary Mar 2017 #40
This is no doubt Bannon's input - just like much of Trump's agenda. Ligyron Mar 2017 #22
His profound ignorance makes him not only dangerous... Beartracks Mar 2017 #37
tRump will soon be gone Abouttime Mar 2017 #3
how many fucking tipping points do we need with this freaking maniac??? Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #4
ooh - things are getting out of hand nocalflea Mar 2017 #11
Yes Yes Yes watoos Mar 2017 #29
The rapture is coming! lagomorph777 Mar 2017 #34
Just like during the election, every new tidbit that came out was supposedly the end of tRump groundloop Mar 2017 #16
So very true. The 'bar' is so low it's got the 'China syndrome' FailureToCommunicate Mar 2017 #21
No kidding volstork Mar 2017 #19
Trump has a rapid trigger finger....and the nuclear launch codes....and doesn't seem to run things Pachamama Mar 2017 #26
see this twitter thread-- scary times Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #35
Nonsense, Chump's base loves him even more today. Trust Buster Mar 2017 #6
So who is the one reading 'fake news' aka propaganda? mwooldri Mar 2017 #7
The whole idea behind Breitbart is that they are the only real news oberliner Mar 2017 #10
yeah..everyone else annabanana Mar 2017 #13
Oberliner is spot on watoos Mar 2017 #30
No, it won't oberliner Mar 2017 #8
Sadly - this Cosmocat Mar 2017 #12
Oh, his behavior IS peeling some of them away. Ligyron Mar 2017 #23
His 'fans' are not necessarily the deciding factor here. whathehell Mar 2017 #18
Honestly, I do not see it happening oberliner Mar 2017 #24
Well, it may help to.remember that, despite how it may feel, whathehell Mar 2017 #28
Wishful thinking Perseus Mar 2017 #9
Exactly. And it's just a diversion attempt. The real story is the Russian collusion... brush Mar 2017 #20
What was the response from congressional republicans? Cosmocat Mar 2017 #14
+1. We need to keep riding herd on both sides of the aisle. JudyM Mar 2017 #25
Step #1: State unfounded conclusion. Step #2: Demand that others find supporting evidence for it. Towlie Mar 2017 #15
The people who watch FOX "news" are believing every word onlyadream Mar 2017 #17
The world of alternative reality Zambero Mar 2017 #27
Here's the problem: "SHOULD finally be the tipping point" Amaryllis Mar 2017 #31
A lot of Americans seem to be able to adapt to the destruction of Solly Mack Mar 2017 #32
Easiest way to push him over the edge would be to invent more Fake News that Breitbart ffr Mar 2017 #33
This!! Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2017 #39
Now e will say he can't comment on his comments because of an ongoing investigation. world wide wally Mar 2017 #36
I think there are many people who, with this latest idiocy, will now write him off as a cretin, with Bill USA Mar 2017 #38

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
2. Weather forecasting is my tipping point
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 07:28 AM
Mar 2017

That fool Trump wants to defund our weather satellites as part of his military refocusing. Is he under the impression that weather forecasts are not important to military planning? Think who all depends on weather forecasting: farmers and ranchers, business, transporters, ocean shipping, navy and coast guard, air force, air lines and private pilots, hurricane warnings, cities to plan for severe weather snow, sleet, floods. Now I'm pissed - really pissed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/noaa-satellit-funding-cuts_us_58bcff7be4b0d2821b4efb52

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
5. Ignorance is bliss-Trump is
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 07:48 AM
Mar 2017

the imbecile-in -chief ....his staff and advisors are a bucketful of idiots.Maybe one of his generals will set him straight-not that he'd listen.

calimary

(81,044 posts)
40. Welcome to DU, nocalflea!
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 01:42 AM
Mar 2017

"socalimary" here! LOL

The ones who scare me among his staff and advisors are the ones who are not idiots. People like Steve Bannon who is Dark-Side smart. Slick and shrewd, and sneaky as shit. Calculating as all-get-out. And who knows what kind of staff Steve Bannon has assembled around himself? More Breitbart goons? Alex Jones helping him pick any? What other vermin are crawling out from under the rocks and the slime and sludge to populate this White House?

Beartracks

(12,786 posts)
37. His profound ignorance makes him not only dangerous...
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 06:49 PM
Mar 2017

... but a willing dope for anyone with a hard right agenda who blows sweet nothings in his ear.

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Abouttime

(675 posts)
3. tRump will soon be gone
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 07:38 AM
Mar 2017

Twitler knows Obama has the proof of his collusion with Putin and the Russians.
Once a special prosecutor is appointed his removal from office will be certain.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
4. how many fucking tipping points do we need with this freaking maniac???
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 07:46 AM
Mar 2017

I mean, I WISH it was the tipping point. But I doubt this will affect his brain-dead supporters and only drive the opposition more against him.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
11. ooh - things are getting out of hand
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 08:25 AM
Mar 2017

I was reading tweets of some his supporters. They think Obama is going to prison -they are crowing about it.
One young woman said that she felt in her gut that Flynn was coming back,that Trump was holding him in reserve for some special purpose-she was ecstatic.
They believe that this is the defeat of the left.Obama's wiretapping of Trump is wholly discrediting of the left.They assume the majority of Americans feel this way.One posted 'It's Over !" as though the left has been vanquished at last.
This is truly cult like behavior.Pathetically sad and bone-chilling at the same time.God knows what is going to happen with these people when they realize none of this will happen.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
29. Yes Yes Yes
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 12:56 PM
Mar 2017

I post on a local red neck site in central Pa. and one poster said exactly what you posted. She posted that this is the end of the Obama administration. I reminded her that the Obama administration is no longer in power.
You are spot on about the cult behavior, they will go down to the bottom of the ocean when his ship sinks.

groundloop

(11,510 posts)
16. Just like during the election, every new tidbit that came out was supposedly the end of tRump
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 08:50 AM
Mar 2017

Multiple bankruptcies - he's toast.
Refusal to release taxes - he's toast.
Mocking a disabled reporter - he's toast.
Bragging about grabbing women's genitals - he's toast.
Bragging about barging into dressing room to ogle naked teenage girls - he's toast.

I just don't know what to expect anymore.

Pachamama

(16,884 posts)
26. Trump has a rapid trigger finger....and the nuclear launch codes....and doesn't seem to run things
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 10:55 AM
Mar 2017

...by anyone on his staff - he just does what he wants and thinks at that moment. He has no self control...the very slightest sets him off and he just recklessly without any thought "tweets" his thoughts, accusations and insults at people at every whim....

He accused the former President of a serious crime...with no proof...and so I just am reminded that what if he said something about a foreign leader (like say of North Korea) or another unstable idiot like himself and that person responds with a crazy military attack and then Trump responds with the use of the launch codes? Seriously.....how could this kind of horror be stopped when this man could react at any moment and not be able to be reasoned with? Especially since it seems he does whatever he wants.

mwooldri

(10,299 posts)
7. So who is the one reading 'fake news' aka propaganda?
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 07:59 AM
Mar 2017

Yep, #45 disses real media like NYT, CNN, BBC and others, and reads the fake stuff aka Breitbart. Or more like Not-So-Bright-Bart.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
30. Oberliner is spot on
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 12:59 PM
Mar 2017

There are a couple more real news sources for the Trumpers, Infowars and the Daily Caller.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
8. No, it won't
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 08:04 AM
Mar 2017

He is not going anywhere. None of this will hurt him with his fans. As long as Republicans control Congress, he will not be tipped.

whathehell

(29,023 posts)
18. His 'fans' are not necessarily the deciding factor here.
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 08:59 AM
Mar 2017

Trump reportedly went ballistic at his inner circle over the weekend
and it wasn't the first time.

How long do you think they will be willing to put up with this before a 'President Pence' starts looking good to them and they go 25th Amendment on him?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
24. Honestly, I do not see it happening
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 09:42 AM
Mar 2017

He has literally crossed every conceivable line, and the Republicans are not moving in that direction. Even the "mavericks" aren't really willing to do much to stop him.

whathehell

(29,023 posts)
28. Well, it may help to.remember that, despite how it may feel,
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 11:34 AM
Mar 2017

it's still very early days in this 'administration, so I still have hope that he will be gone within the year...In just don't see how the country can go on like this.











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Perseus

(4,341 posts)
9. Wishful thinking
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 08:04 AM
Mar 2017

No, the tipping point should be the Russia connections, that is treason, this is just libel, but not enough to bring the experiment down, I wish it were, but republicans have made worst accusations in the past and got away with it, not sure why this would be different.

brush

(53,720 posts)
20. Exactly. And it's just a diversion attempt. The real story is the Russian collusion...
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 09:19 AM
Mar 2017

and trump knows it. Let's keep the pressure on and now be swayed by attempts to take the spotlight off of the real story.

Cosmocat

(14,557 posts)
14. What was the response from congressional republicans?
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 08:42 AM
Mar 2017

Has Mitch McConnell or Paul Ryan responded?

We have seen one republican come out against it in the senate, that is it.

Meanwhile, some asshat who is on the committee in the House 45 is demanding look into has publicly said "sir, yes sir!"

NOTHING "breaks" until congressional republicans see what little (assuming there is any) light remains in their souls/conscience.

Towlie

(5,314 posts)
15. Step #1: State unfounded conclusion. Step #2: Demand that others find supporting evidence for it.
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 08:43 AM
Mar 2017

Step #3: Profit!

onlyadream

(2,164 posts)
17. The people who watch FOX "news" are believing every word
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 08:52 AM
Mar 2017

On the message forums they all totally believe that Obama tapped Trump's phones! No questions asked. And somehow, the many Russian connections connected to Trump's inner circle are of zero concern.

Zambero

(8,961 posts)
27. The world of alternative reality
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 10:56 AM
Mar 2017

This why they tune in to the likes of Fox, Breitbart, Drudge, Levin, Limbaugh, Fakebook posts et al. Facts are summarily buried and fabrications emerge to quickly fill the gap. Given these people were deluded enough to vote for an utterly corrupt, lying, narcissistic and manifestly compromised Donald Trump, there is no story too preposterous for consumption, as long as it is compatible with rigid ideology and places declared enemies in their "rightful" lace.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
31. Here's the problem: "SHOULD finally be the tipping point"
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 02:08 PM
Mar 2017

"Should" assumes the discrimination to tell fact from alternative fact. THose who consume fake news such as FAUX don't have that.

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
32. A lot of Americans seem to be able to adapt to the destruction of
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 02:47 PM
Mar 2017

their government and country rather well.

They seem to want it. They cheer for it.

The wear silly red hats in support of it.


And when it all comes crashing down around them they'll blame African-Americans, brown people, GLBT, women, Muslims and other non-Christians, immigrants, atheists - anyone and everyone but themselves and their need to cling to a time and place that never existed. No change there.

The Trump Experiment started out as a tipping point, from the beginning of his campaign until now.

I hope the change coming is for the good but ...we'll see.

ffr

(22,663 posts)
33. Easiest way to push him over the edge would be to invent more Fake News that Breitbart
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 03:08 PM
Mar 2017

will report.

Like counter-Chaos.

world wide wally

(21,733 posts)
36. Now e will say he can't comment on his comments because of an ongoing investigation.
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 06:41 PM
Mar 2017

Pretty much like his taxes being audited.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
38. I think there are many people who, with this latest idiocy, will now write him off as a cretin, with
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 06:53 PM
Mar 2017

serious mental health issues. Significantly more people will now disregard just about everything he says.

IS one of those persons Comey???

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