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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon May 22, 2017, 01:16 PM May 2017

What right-wing populism? Polls reveal that it's liberalism that's surging.

Is this the real “Trump effect”?

Updated by Ruy Teixeira May 22, 2017, 8:40am EDT

For liberals, one of most disturbing things about the 2016 election was that it seemed to indicate a massive lurch to the right in a country they thought was getting more, not less, liberal. Many contemplated with varying degrees of seriousness whether they should simply leave a country which had suddenly become hostile territory.

That was a suspect view even at the time of Trump’s election — Clinton did, after all, get almost 3 million more votes than Donald Trump. But it’s even more suspect now, as public opinion polls have shown over and over since last November.

What these polls have revealed is, despite fears of surging right-wing populism, we are seeing surging liberalism instead. Consider the ultra-hot button issue of immigration. In April, the NBC/Wall Street Journal poll asked the public whether “immigration helps the United States more than it hurts it, or immigration hurts the United States more than it helps it?” The response: 60 percent said it helps more than it hurts, and just 32 percent said hurts more than it helps. That is the strongest positive evaluation this poll has ever gotten on this question.

In fact, as the chart below indicates, positive feelings about immigration have generally been rising since early 2016, including through Trump’s election and beyond. And if you go back to 2005, when the question was first asked by NBC/WSJ, positive feelings today are way higher than they were back then. (In 2005, only 37 percent thought immigration helped more than it hurt.)

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https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/5/22/15672530/opinion-polls-liberal-immigration-trade-role-government-aca

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What right-wing populism? Polls reveal that it's liberalism that's surging. (Original Post) DonViejo May 2017 OP
complacency gave us Trump and rightwing wackos. America responds as now its a matter beachbum bob May 2017 #1
This has been largely true for a long time, but it doesn't keep the plutocrats DavidDvorkin May 2017 #2
They cheat! They cheat! They cheat! They cheat! eom Alice11111 May 2017 #3
Yes, they do DavidDvorkin May 2017 #4
That's what Obama said. Alice11111 May 2017 #5
I agree. DavidDvorkin May 2017 #6
I am very impressed with young liberals Skittles May 2017 #7

DavidDvorkin

(19,473 posts)
2. This has been largely true for a long time, but it doesn't keep the plutocrats
Mon May 22, 2017, 02:43 PM
May 2017

from grabbing and keeping power.

DavidDvorkin

(19,473 posts)
4. Yes, they do
Mon May 22, 2017, 05:43 PM
May 2017

And I don't know how we can stop them. The only chance we have is to generate such huge support from voters that we can overcome their cheating. That makes the task really huge.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
5. That's what Obama said.
Mon May 22, 2017, 05:56 PM
May 2017

I also think we need to aggressively collect and reveal all the info we can on them, when it is true.
We don't need to wait until what we know is perfect, which can take years. Release it w a caveat, piecemeal if necessary. That's what the Repubs do, in addition to just making shit up, the Russians, Comey....

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
7. I am very impressed with young liberals
Mon May 22, 2017, 07:21 PM
May 2017

they've been fed a steady diet of rightwing corporate bullshit but have seen it for what it is

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