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yurbud

(39,405 posts)
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 03:22 PM Jun 2017

Poll: Mass Media Has Duped Democrats Into Believing Russia Hacked Voting Machines

59% of Democrats believe Russia hacked vote totals in the US to give the election to Donald Trump though no credible evidence of that has been given.

Much like the 70% of Americans who believed Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11 even though Bush and most of the media were careful to never say this directly.

When Democrats say "Russia hacked our election" and low info voters don't dig into it, it sure sounds like they mean Russia hacked the vote doesn't it?

Is Trump financially compromised by his financial ties to the Russian mob and maybe even Russian government? Very likely.

Did Russia hacked some or all of the Democratic emails? Maybe (I'm willing to believe once intel agencies show their evidence).

Did Trump ASK Russia to hack emails? Definitely.

Should that be enough to get him impeached? Definitely.

So why mislead people?

What is the end game here?

Russia gave up communism decades ago. Whatever their sins, we've got allies who have done and are even doing the same or worse.

Who is demanding escalating tensions with Russia to the brink of war and probably farther?

How the hell will average Americans benefit from that?

And if that doesn't bother you, how do Democrats expect to win elections based on brinksmanship with a nuclear armed power when Hillary lost to Obama in 2008 because he was perceived as the more anti-war candidate?




...These corporate media outlets fell all over themselves last week in a mad scramble to make sure that everyone in America felt dirty and ashamed if they took any interest in the Seth Rich case, but they have expended exactly zero energy correcting an outrageous, xenophobia-inducing fact-free conspiracy theory that they themselves helped promulgate, and which is far more widespread than interest in the Seth Rich case has ever been. This proves beyond a doubt that the false belief that Russia literally hacked America’s voting system has been intentionally inflicted upon the public by the mass media propaganda machine.

In late 2003, half a year after US and coalition forces invaded Iraq, a poll by USA Today found that 70 percent of Americans still believed that Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11. They didn’t believe this because the mass media was directly saying “Saddam did 9/11”; they would have lost the public’s trust if they’d directly promulgated such an outrageous falsehood. The public subscribed to this false belief because corporate media reporters consistently mentioned the September 11 terrorist attacks in the same breath as they mentioned the falsified intelligence reports stating that the Iraqi government had weapons of mass destruction and intended to facilitate their use on American soil. This misperception successfully manufactured public support for a regime change invasion that claimed the lives of a million innocent Iraqis.

In exactly the same way, reports and headlines marrying the words “election” and “hacking” have deliberately created this misperception among liberal Americans. Establishment politicians have been using their mass media-aided platforms to advance this false narrative as well, with corporate Democrats like Cory Booker openly claiming that Russia directly undermined the ability of Americans to express their opinions at the polls, as in this Facebook video which received over a million views...

In order to escalate tensions with a nuclear superpower for nothing but geopolitical power that benefits no one other than a few plutocrats, America’s power establishment needs to manufacture the consent of the governed. Without that consent, they’d be dealing with 320 million angry, heavily-armed Americans who’ve got a problem with the way their government is risking their lives by playing nuclear brinkmanship with NATO troop amassment long the Russian border and a needless military presence in Syria.

Without the mass media propaganda machine, it would never in a million years occur to any American that any of this is normal. It would never occur to normal Americans that they should worry about some icy potato patch on the other side of the planet unless the media was constantly telling them it’s attacking their democracy. It would never occur to normal Americans that their government should be involving itself in the affairs of other nations while they themselves face growing poverty and go without healthcare. The insane behaviors of the US oligarchs would never be consented to without the constant assurance of the oligarch-owned media conglomerates that this is all a perfectly normal and healthy way to go about life.

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/poll-mass-media-has-duped-democrats-into-believing-russia-hacked-voting-machines-e0cd0e7e9d17
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yurbud

(39,405 posts)
4. correct. and if Dems had pointed that out, investigated & prosecuted, we wouldn't have Trump
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 03:43 PM
Jun 2017

like '68 & '80 October Surprise, Iran Contra, Florida felon voter purge, Bush's war lies and war crimes, AND interstate cross check in this election--if they had howled loud and often about those to the media like this Russia stuff, the GOP would already be dead.

MedusaX

(1,129 posts)
5. Coincidences require a great deal of planning...
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 04:12 PM
Jun 2017

IMO,
It makes no difference whether...

The voting machine software, in the states won by tiny margins,
(Margins which just happened to be narrow enough to be plausible)
Was conveniently modified
by Guccifer 2.0 et al,
a Cambridge Analytica engineer,
some Renaissance/Medallion/Mercer Quant
or any other capable foreign/domestic hacker.....


There was an organized operation, conducted purposefully by a small group comprised of both Russian and domestic (pro-GOP) entities & individuals, involving a variety of cyber based active measures which were carried out for the sole purpose of influencing the 2016 election outcome in favor of DJT.

As such, each of the individual measures which were carried out as part of the collective operation, is equally attributable to the Russian/GOP alliance which organized and funded the overall cyber attack operation.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
6. why didn't Democrats bother to make a big stink about this when it was just the GOP?
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 05:32 PM
Jun 2017

If I am the victim of a mugging, I would call the cops whether it was an American, a foreigner, or one of each working together.

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