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yurbud

(39,405 posts)
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 11:31 AM Jul 2017

It took 50 years to confirm 1968 was stolen. It took 243 days to confirm 2016 was stolen.

Good post on DK about Republicans only winning the presidency by cheating, mostly monkey wrenching foreign policy.

What is odd to me is this is the first time Democrats have made long, consistent noise about it.

The other thing that is odd is the monkey-wrenching at least slowed escalating tensions with Russia rather than damage peace talks. I wonder if that's why the MSM is airing the allegation and keeping it in the mix.

NOTE: Formatting isn't working for me lately. Everything below the line is quoted.
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The New York Times, December 31, 2016:

During a phone call on the night of Oct. 22, 1968, Richard M. Nixon told his closest aide (and future chief of staff) H.R. Haldeman to "monkey wrench" President Lyndon B. Johnson's efforts to begin peace negotiations over the Vietnam War. Nixon long denied giving such an order, but Haldeman's notes, which were quietly made public in 2007 and were recently discovered by the historian Jack Farrell, prove he was lying.

The New York Times, July 9, 2017

President Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., was promised damaging information about Hillary Clinton before agreeing to meet with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer during the 2016 campaign, according to three advisers to the White House briefed on the meeting and two others with knowledge of it.


On December 11, 2016, eight days before the electoral college met, I wrote: 1968, 1980, 2000, 2016,* summarizing October and other surprises:

The 1968 “monkey wrench” of Vietnam peace efforts.

The 1980 likely deal with Iran to delay release of hostages until after election. Credibility buttressed by later Iran-Contra deal.

The 2000 theft by Supreme Court and voter purging.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/9/1679269/-It-took-50-years-to-confirm-1968-was-stolen-It-took-243-days-to-confirm-2016-was-stolen
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It took 50 years to confirm 1968 was stolen. It took 243 days to confirm 2016 was stolen. (Original Post) yurbud Jul 2017 OP
It's what they do. babyelephant Jul 2017 #1
Republicans can only win by cheating and lying. The truth is not their friend. SunSeeker Jul 2017 #2
the lack of defensive action is more mysterious to me yurbud Jul 2017 #3

SunSeeker

(51,372 posts)
2. Republicans can only win by cheating and lying. The truth is not their friend.
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 03:29 PM
Jul 2017

That is why Republicans have waged war with the truth for decades.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
3. the lack of defensive action is more mysterious to me
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 06:33 PM
Jul 2017

The Republican Party is like a vampire trapped in the sunlight, but instead of letting it die, Democrats pull them into the shade, open a vein, and nurse them back to life.

As much as I love that analogy, in practical terms, Democrats rarely or consistently point out the fraud and failure of Republican policies like Reaganomics, or that the same neocons who lied to us during the Bush administration also lied to us about the Cold War from the 70's until the end.

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