Yes, Trump can be removed from the US presidency. Heres how

[nitpicker]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/13/donald-trump-can-be-removed-from-presidency-democrats-winning-elections

Yes, Trump can be removed from the US presidency. Here’s how

Jonathan Freedland

Saturday 14 October 2017 10.21 BST

The bar is set so low for Donald Trump that every day he doesn’t trigger a nuclear confrontation with a distant adversary is seen as a bonus. Today was one such day, as Trump signalled that he would not, after all, tear up the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran, as many – including his closest lieutenants – once feared he would.
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But the Iran decision also stands as the latest instance of a strategy of containment. Normally that term is used by diplomats to describe policy towards an enemy state. This time, the one being contained is Trump himself. Those doing the containing are the highest ranking officials in the administration, handily abbreviated as MMTK: national security adviser HR McMaster; defence secretary James Mattis; secretary of state Rex Tillerson; and chief of staff John Kelly. Three are former generals, who have concluded that it is their patriotic duty to save America from their president. Republican senator Bob Corker, chair of the senate foreign relations committee, describes Kelly, Mattis and Tillerson as the “people that help separate our country from chaos”. As he put it, “I know for a fact that every single day at the White House, it’s a situation of trying to contain him.”

The fudged decision on Iran seems to be their handiwork. It fits a pattern in which Trump’s most senior officials work to thwart, defy or deceive him. When Trump was railing against the Iran deal, Mattis told Congress it was in the US national interest. When Trump was taunting North Korea’s “little rocket man” by tweet, Tillerson was opening up a secret back channel for talks with Pyongyang. When Trump tweeted his decision to ban transgender people from serving in the military, Mattis quietly ignored him, ensuring that it remains the military’s decision who can and cannot serve.

All these moves, coupled with the sight of Corker – a conservative Republican from conservative Tennessee – breaking ranks have led to fevered talk – and hope – that things might be coming to a head, that the Republican dam might be about to break. It has been fuelled by Tillerson’s failure to deny that he had referred to the president as a “fucking moron”. (Apparently Tillerson was incensed by Trump’s desire, expressed during a White House briefing, to increase America’s already massive nuclear arsenal tenfold – as if the ability to destroy the world several times over is not enough.) This week another Republican senator asked Trump if he was recanting his oath of office, in which he had promised to “preserve, protect and defend” the constitution. Hours earlier, Trump had trampled on the first amendment, which guarantees freedom of speech, by saying: “It’s frankly disgusting the way the press is able to write whatever they want to write.” Trump then called for broadcaster NBC to be stripped of its operating “licence”. Never mind that such a thing does not exist: it’s the thought that counts.

The notion that Trump’s own party is about to turn on him is not solely wishful thinking by his opponents or the liberal media. Steve Bannon, who exited the White House in August, is said to have told Trump he had only a 30% chance of serving out his full term. Bannon warned his undoing could be the 25th amendment to the constitution. To which Trump naturally replied: “What’s that?” It’s the section that provides for a situation in which the president is “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office”. If the vice-president and a majority of the cabinet declare Trump unable to do his job, and Congress agrees, they have the power to remove him. Which is why the question of Trump’s mental capacity has suddenly gained traction.
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As a fantasy, the 25th amendment has tremendous appeal: who wouldn’t want to end this presidency, swiftly and cleanly? But it is itself a delusion. Can you imagine the current US cabinet, stuffed as it is with sycophants and billionaire know-nothings, turning on their patron for the sake of the country and the world? Several are in trouble for billing the US taxpayer for the needless use of private jets; one is currently being taunted for insisting that, in the manner of Queen Elizabeth, a flag be raised whenever he is in residence. Selfless patriots they are not.
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No, the only way to remove Trump is for Democrats to do the hard graft of organising, campaigning and winning elections – starting with the midterms of November 2018. So long as Republicans control the House and Senate, Trump is safe.
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[no_hypocrisy]

1. Don't wait 'til 2018. GOTV November 7.

We have less than four weeks to get democratic majorities in our counties and state houses. THAT'S where national policy can originate.

Register voters. Call voters. Get voters to the polls. And check your counties to ensure your name is still "on the books" in case you're in those states that tend to arbitrarily purge voters. Check it now.

[madaboutharry]

2. Excellent article.

Democrats must take over the House and Senate.

[global1]

3. + 1000% - K & R......nt

[NNadir]

4. I can imagine Trump's cabinet turning on him. His Secretary of State correctly noted he's a moron.

I have no use for anyone who has served as CEO of Exxon; since I regard Exxon in RICO terms. Nevertheless, I don't believe that one gets to be CEO of Exxon by being a total idiot and a total fool on the order of the racist and very stupid Dauphin of New York, now become King.

This said, the wealth of plutocrats depends on stability. A collapse of the United States is decidedly not in their interest.

They decidedly don't want a mob based French revolution here.

To My Fellow Plutocrats: You Can Cure Trumpism.

[Louis1895]

5. The last paragraph is key!

No, the only way to remove Trump is for Democrats to do the hard graft of organising, campaigning and winning elections – starting with the midterms of November 2018. So long as Republicans control the House and Senate, Trump is safe.

[Duppers]

7. Yes !!

[usaf-vet]

6. Don't be delusional people. As long as the republicans are willing to be complicit

with stealing elections by any measure at any cost... you (Democrats) will not win elections that count.

As long as the country continues to use electronic voting systems and electronic tabulators... you (Democrats) will not win elections that count.

As long as the voting systems are within reach of foreign powers by virtue of their internet connection...you (Democrats) will not win elections that count.

As long as you believe GOTV is the answer... you (Democrats) will not win elections that count.

Understand this electronic voting is your enemy! Computer systems in elections is your enemy. Each of these have been used against you and have been fine tuned with the assistance of computers, Gerrymandering maps (computer drawn), vote suppression (computer assisted), voter databases (computer tabulated), stolen or openly sold historical voting records by wards-polling places-communities and states (historical computer records)

If you GOTV and bring in 1,000,000 new voters 10,000,000 new voters your enemy the computers will calculate where to steal 1,000,000 +2% for a win. 10,000,000 +2% for a win. Always within the margin of error.

For those of you who are old enough ask yourself this question why was the 2000 Bush v Gore presidential election so instrumental in today's elections. The hanging chads in Florida (Governor Jeb Bush) led the way through the outrageous SCOTUS decision. It led directly to a national program to put electronic voting in every polling place.

Ever wonder how your smart car can calculate you MPG when you are going 70 MPH. Or how air traffic controllers get you safely from point A to point B. Answer: High speed computer calculations in real time. So don't doubt the fact that the computers can always calculate how many votes are need for the prescribed (programmed) winner to win.

Final point I am and Democrat. Have always voted Democrat since my first election after my 18 birthday 52 years ago. I am a retire computer consultant and have screamed about this since 2000. AND I HATE TO LOSE!

GO BACK TO PAPER BALLOTS!! GO BACK TO PAPER BALLOTS!! GO BACK TO PAPER BALLOTS!!

[Duppers]

8. Sending in my paper absentee vote.

Thanks for that reminder. You are so right.

[usaf-vet]

9. Only if more would listen.

[yurbud]

12. Democrats have not played hardball on these issues or made enough noise in the media about it.

[elleng]

10. 'No, the only way to remove Trump is for Democrats to do the hard graft of organising,

campaigning and winning elections – starting with the midterms of November 2018. So long as Republicans control the House and Senate, Trump is safe.'

[ThoughtCriminal]

11. It's actually easier than that - if the GOP really wants him gone.

It would only take a few GOP votes to force the release of his tax returns. If they go to Trump and tell him that if he does not resign, the tax returns go public. If he fails to take that offer, he will end up more concerned about extradition treaties than impeachment.