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Judi Lynn

(160,524 posts)
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:01 PM Apr 2018

WWII Sub Rumoured to Have Taken Top Nazis to South America Found Off Danish Coast


By George Dvorsky on 24 Apr 2018 at 3:00PM

In the dying days of World War II, a German sub was reportedly sunk near the Danish coast, but the wreck was never found, leading to speculation that high-ranking Nazi officials—even possibly Adolf Hitler himself—used the high-tech vessel to escape to South America. A museum in Denmark has finally found the missing U-boat, ending this 73-year-old mystery.

The German submarine was discovered under 403 feet (123 metres) of water earlier this month by an expedition from the Sea War Museum Jutland. Radar scans of the seafloor taken from the survey ship Viña show the U-boat U-3523—an advanced Type XXI submarine—resting in an extraordinary position, with its tail-end sticking out from a hole at practically a 45 degree angle.

This is now the ninth German sub discovered by the Sea War Museum along the Danish coast, in addition to three British subs. In total, the museum has discovered 450 wrecks in the North Sea and in the Skagerrak Strait between Norway, Sweden, and the Jutland peninsula of Denmark.

According to the British navy, a B24 Liberator sunk the U-3523 on May 6, 1945 using depth charges, which are underwater explosives dropped from above. Given the timing of the incident, the U-boat was likely not on patrol, but on the run. The sinking happened a day after Nazi forces surrendered in Denmark, and just two days before the war officially ended in Europe. Fifty-three German sailors were killed in the incident, assuming its standard contingent was on board. The U-3523 was found in the Skagerrak Strait some 10.3 miles (16.6 km) northeast of Skagen. The pilot of the B24 Liberator reported a location 1.2 miles (2 km) away, which may explain why the sub eluded discovery for so many years. Its unorthodox position on the seafloor may have had something to do with it as well.

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http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2018/04/wwii-sub-rumoured-to-have-taken-top-nazis-to-south-america-found-off-danish-coast/
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WWII Sub Rumoured to Have Taken Top Nazis to South America Found Off Danish Coast (Original Post) Judi Lynn Apr 2018 OP
Kick for exposure Angry Dragon Apr 2018 #1
I hate Bob Loblaw Apr 2018 #2
The smart ones made it to the Highway 78 corridor between Carlsbad and Escondido, CA sandensea Apr 2018 #4
I live near there. I didn't know this. BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #5
Nobody knows exactly sandensea Apr 2018 #6
GOP naturally...maybe BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #7
Sure. Most of them are probably not of a Nazi persuasion themselves and want nothing to do with it. sandensea Apr 2018 #8
Also pre-war Nazis in LA in the 1930s and beyond as recounted in Steven Ross' book, appalachiablue Apr 2018 #10
Started w the original Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #9
Hi, See #10. I sent to Sanensea, and it's for you too. appalachiablue Apr 2018 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author sandensea Apr 2018 #3
I kind of like the idea MosheFeingold Apr 2018 #12

sandensea

(21,624 posts)
4. The smart ones made it to the Highway 78 corridor between Carlsbad and Escondido, CA
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:23 PM
Apr 2018

Care of Prescott Bush and the Dulles brothers.

It was said to be thousands of them; you can still find antique shops overflowing with Nazi memorabilia in Escondido particularly.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
5. I live near there. I didn't know this.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 07:20 PM
Apr 2018

How did the Nazis get to the San Diego area? It is on the west coast. Did they somehow hide in open space in a populated area? Did they build lives here?

sandensea

(21,624 posts)
6. Nobody knows exactly
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 07:28 PM
Apr 2018

There were the 1,600 officially recognized 'Paperclip' Nazis (mainly scientists who ended up at NASA, JPL, etc.) - but also up to 10,000 Nazi SS and intelligence officers, including the originators of many of the torture, organized crime, and psy-ops tactics that were later used in the School of the Americas and similar sites to train assorted Third World miscreants.

Because their presence couldn't be acknowledged at the time, these were the ones that ended up hidden, with assumed identities, in and around Escondido (which, as you may know, means 'hidden' in Spanish).

Most of them are dead now surely - though I can tell you their sons and grandsons are still there, and in some cases active in politics.

GOP politics, natürlich.

sandensea

(21,624 posts)
8. Sure. Most of them are probably not of a Nazi persuasion themselves and want nothing to do with it.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 07:42 PM
Apr 2018

They know to steer clear of anything that might attract too much attention besides.


appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
10. Also pre-war Nazis in LA in the 1930s and beyond as recounted in Steven Ross' book,
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 05:11 PM
Apr 2018

"Nazis in Los Angeles: How Jews Foiled Nazi Plots Against Hollywood and America." I just saw Ross speak on a panel at the LA Book Festival last weekend broadcast on CSpan. It's hard to imagine Nazis and associates in CA, but they were.

I'd heard a little about this last year when his book came out but not the whole story. The American Nazi Bund rallies in the 1930s in NYC, and also group and youth camps on Long Island, in PA, WI and other states I'd read about, but not in the west!

In the last few years I've read a couple significant books on the Paperclip Nazis and it dawned on me one day that a college friend of a friend was absolutely the child of a Paperclip transplant who worked post war as a 'language interpreter' at Los Alamos, NM. I'd heard his father, a chemical co. exec. in NJ passed, found the obit and the pieces fit. Gives me the creeps just to mention it.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-ross-nazis-of-los-angeles-hitler-in-la-20171008-story.html

https://www.c-span.org/video/?435153-1/hitler-los-angeles

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
9. Started w the original
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 08:21 PM
Apr 2018

600 from Paperclip. Lots of scientists came to CA., after WWII. Including some of the Nazi Dr's who experimented on humans in Dachau. "The Company", hired a lot of them. A few were involved w the LSD experiments in the 50's and 60's. Dr. Strughold, retired and died in San Antonio, I think.

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MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
12. I kind of like the idea
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 07:11 PM
Apr 2018

That they drowned in a submarine.

What a crappy way to die.

Shame it wasn't filmed so I can watch it with some popcorn and a beer.

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