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Bradshaw3

(7,488 posts)
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 05:18 PM Jun 2018

Trump has turned words winto weapons. And he's winning the linguistic war

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Trump knows the press has a strong instinct to repeat his most outrageous claims, and this allows him put the press to work as a marketing agency for his ideas. His lies reach millions of people through constant repetition in the press and social media. This poses an existential threat to democracy.
Language works by activating brain structures called “frame-circuits” used to understand experience. They get stronger when we hear the activating language. Enough repetition can make them permanent, changing how we view the world.

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Even negating a frame-circuit activates and strengthens it, as when Nixon said “I am not a crook” and people thought of him as a crook.

Scientists, marketers, advertisers and salespeople understand these principles. So do Russian and Islamic State hackers. But most reporters and editors clearly don’t. So the press is at a disadvantage when dealing with a super salesman with an instinctive ability to manipulate thought by 1) framing first 2) repeating often, and 3) leading others to repeat his words by getting people to attack him within his own frame.


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/13/how-to-report-trump-media-manipulation-language

My take:
I wish people would listen to Lakoff, not just journalists but also Democratic leaders, about how to win the message wars. Much of this is about understanding how the brain works.


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Trump has turned words winto weapons. And he's winning the linguistic war (Original Post) Bradshaw3 Jun 2018 OP
Repugs have always used words as weapons and they have always won that war. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2018 #1
True they are good at branding, but Bradshaw3 Jun 2018 #2
You are correct. It is a daily amazement as to how Ferrets are Cool Jun 2018 #3
I harp on this a lot. malthaussen Jun 2018 #5
Lakoff does offer some solutions Bradshaw3 Jun 2018 #6
The *ideal* job of a free press is seeking the truth, etc... malthaussen Jun 2018 #7
True but there are individuals and some non-profit sites doing good work Bradshaw3 Jun 2018 #10
Good article dalton99a Jun 2018 #4
Dems have ignored Lakoff for years, elleng Jun 2018 #8
I know but I will keep hoping they listen Bradshaw3 Jun 2018 #9
Ditto I keep hoping. elleng Jun 2018 #11

Bradshaw3

(7,488 posts)
2. True they are good at branding, but
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 06:31 PM
Jun 2018

Nixon's mafia were guys from advertising like Haldeman so they knew techniques and Reagan and others knew how to play the race card but I don't believe we've seen anything like this current situation with dump.

I realize that it can be hard for people to grasp that by repeating a lie and then trying to debunk it that can often only serve to spead its message. But I'm afraid if the media and Democratic leaders don't recognize what they are up agains they are just going to keep feeding the monster until it's too late.

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
5. I harp on this a lot.
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 09:57 AM
Jun 2018

Don't dignify nonsense with a response, it only validates it.

The problem is, Mr Trump is not just some anonymous Internet clown spewing toxic wastes. His statements are ipso facto declarations by the US Head of State and Head of Government. No matter how "illegitimate" we think he is, no matter how strongly we pound the table and scream "he's not my President!" -- he is, and therefore anything he says is automatically news, and important. Which he laps up, of course, it's his wildest dream come true. But unlike our embarrassing Uncle Fred, we can't lock him up in the attic and let him drool all over himself -- and with no unanimity from the Press, we can't muster a solid chorus of sense to drown out his nonsense.

-- Mal

Bradshaw3

(7,488 posts)
6. Lakoff does offer some solutions
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:08 AM
Jun 2018

Agee with all you said.

For those who might not want to click on the article, here is what they suggest for the media:

First, journalists must understand how propaganda works on the brain and grasp the cognitive science that marketers of propaganda have implicitly mastered: frames, metaphors, narratives and brain basics.

Second, keep a steely focus on the fact that American democracy is under attack by a foreign power, possibly with collusion from the sitting president’s campaign. This is a crisis. Certain rules don’t apply in a crisis, especially the rule that the press must amplify the president’s words, whatever they are.

Third, stop letting Trump control the news cycle. Newsgathering should be a serious affair controlled by editors whose power rivals any politician’s. Stop chasing his tweets and elevating every sideshow. Start every story with truth and the context of what’s really important to citizens in a democracy. More BBC, less TMZ.

Fourth, don’t spread lies. Don’t privilege Trump’s lies by putting their specific language in the headlines, the leads or the hashtags. Don’t repeat the lies assuming people will automatically know they’re lies. People need to know the president is lying, but be careful about repeating the lies because “a lie repeated often enough becomes the truth”. Repetition of lies spreads them.

The job of the free press is to seek the truth and report the truth, especially the morally important truths and their consequences. If the press fails to do this job, not only does it lose its freedom, but we all do.

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
7. The *ideal* job of a free press is seeking the truth, etc...
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:27 AM
Jun 2018

... the real-world job of the press is to make a lot of money, by whatever means expedient. And therein lies the problem.

-- Mal

Bradshaw3

(7,488 posts)
10. True but there are individuals and some non-profit sites doing good work
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 12:46 PM
Jun 2018

But yes even some of the ones I like and respect in the for-profit press always have to keep in mind who signs their checks.

Bradshaw3

(7,488 posts)
9. I know but I will keep hoping they listen
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 12:43 PM
Jun 2018

I used to work with neuroscience and cognitve science researchers so I was able to learn how much of what we do is unconscious behavior. Humans are just not as aware of their own behavior as they think they are, and it is often detrimental to ourselves and sometimes dangerous.

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