Trump and Mnuchin Break the Law By Refusing to Release President's Tax Records
May 8, 2019
White collar criminologist Bill Black explains how the administration's stance on Trump' taxes is illegal and what the possible consequences could beor should be
MARC STEINER Welcome to The Real News Network. Im Marc Steiner. Great to have you all with us. So here we go. Congress wants Trumps tax returns. House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Richard Neal requested them all, or six specific things, but then Trumps Secretary of the Treasury, Steven Mnuchin, sent this letter in response. As hes saying, no deal. Youre not going to get that from the IRS. The IRS, of course, now being run by Charles Rettig, who is one of the nations leading attorneys for people some people might call tax cheats, will not turn over Trumps tax returns, writing that the committees request is unprecedented, is constitutionally questionable, and may have lasting negative effects for taxpayers countrywide. Yet, the 1924 Anti-Corruption Act says that Congress can ask for anyones tax returns at any time. Now this may go immediately to the Supreme Court or wind its way up to the Supreme Court. We dont know what that means, so what gives here? Well our guest, who has been a financial regulator and is a Professor of Economics and Law at the University of Missouri- Kansas City, should know something about all this and can shed some light. Of course, were talking about Bill Black. Good to have you with us, Bill. Welcome back.
BILL BLACK Thank you.
MARC STEINER I should also say the title of his book because I love the title of this book, The Best Way To Rob A Bank Is To Own One. That is one of the best titles in American history, I think. So let me just start with this. So both the chairman of the committee in trying to get some tax returns from Trump, and Secretary Mnuchin, talk about Section 6103both using that as a defense why they should get the tax returns legally and the secretary saying, no you shouldnt have these tax returns because this is politicized, and you dont have a legitimate reason. So what is this Section 6103, and what does it mean?
BILL BLACK Well, it means that Democrats win, is the short answer. I was also litigation director of a major federal agency, you know, and Im a law prof as well. So, what it says in the statute is whileit isnt all of Congress that can request. Its the key committee chairs in the House and the Senate. This is the appropriate one in the House. So this is one of the consequences of the Democrats getting control of the House, that theyre now in a position to make this request. And while the word Im using is request, the statute is mandatory, its not discretionary. It says when you receive this request, you shall provide those documents to the committee chair. So the Democrats have a clean winner. Whats the origins of the statute? The origins of the statute are in the Teapot Dome Scandal. And so, in history there used to be a debate about the most corrupt administration in the United States, whether it was the Grant administration or the Harding administration.
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