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Zorro

(18,674 posts)
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 07:19 AM Oct 2019

Donald Is Desperate

On Wednesday I watched Donald Trump in the Oval Office, while seated next to the Finnish president, take questions from reporters in what can only be described as the unhinged rantings of a desperate man melting down, spiraling out of control and lashing out.

Over the last few years, and particularly since the Robert Mueller investigation concluded, I have grown accustomed to Trump delivering his insults, launching his attacks and spewing his lies with a swaggering smugness.

This was not that. What was on display Wednesday was anger animated by panicked fear.

And at another news conference with the Finnish president, Trump repeated his stupefying performance, rambling and raving, dodging questions and misdirecting attention. And, of course, lying.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/02/opinion/trump-impeachment.html

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Donald Is Desperate (Original Post) Zorro Oct 2019 OP
This is what happens gab13by13 Oct 2019 #1
They lash out against what they believe qre their tormentors. gordianot Oct 2019 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2019 #18
Narcissism is dependent on enablers. gordianot Oct 2019 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2019 #23
I worked for one like most was not diagnosed. gordianot Oct 2019 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2019 #28
We are watching and witnessing history. kozar Oct 2019 #2
I have never seen anything like the 2 rants we witnessed yesterday True Blue American Oct 2019 #3
agree kozar Oct 2019 #4
Waiting for gasket failure bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #5
What is REALLY frightening..... ashredux Oct 2019 #6
If Trump is this unhinged now, what will he do when his taxes are released? dlk Oct 2019 #7
True. And when Michael Cohen walks someone through Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #13
All the lies, dick moves daily, what else he gotta do to get fired? Brainfodder Oct 2019 #8
His display of fear duforsure Oct 2019 #9
7 Words--"Even the GOP can see that now"..Everyone can see that now!!! no text. Stuart G Oct 2019 #10
His voice was raised by an octave or so - a terrified screechy noise. lagomorph777 Oct 2019 #16
Colbert compared him to the old cat when murielm99 Oct 2019 #20
But for the GOP, denial is as deep as the Mariana trench. calimary Oct 2019 #30
Of course there's always another possibility. MarianJack Oct 2019 #11
No. Not another Epstein escape. Marcuse Oct 2019 #32
He would be SO much better off if he remained Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #12
Craziest of all, he's implicating the two protectors he needs most: Pence and Barr. lagomorph777 Oct 2019 #17
I hope it consumes him like the fires of hell, its where he belongs. Historic NY Oct 2019 #14
This is a generous description. ramen Oct 2019 #19
We have had assholes in the White House before, but I have never seen anyone world wide wally Oct 2019 #21
I think we are getting to see... N_E_1 for Tennis Oct 2019 #24
Donald is Demented Hal Zerozerozeronine Oct 2019 #25
Desperate Cheeto woodsprite Oct 2019 #26
Floggin the Darn Horse! Newest Reality Oct 2019 #29
Desperadotard Blue Owl Oct 2019 #31

gab13by13

(32,269 posts)
1. This is what happens
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 07:27 AM
Oct 2019

when a narcissist is exposed as being an incompetent failure. Trump was lying when he said he welcomed impeachment.

There is a real possibility that Donald Trump may have a nervous breakdown. Democrats need to control the narrative.

gordianot

(15,772 posts)
15. They lash out against what they believe qre their tormentors.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 08:58 AM
Oct 2019

More normal Narcissist may strike, shoot, bludgeon family members. Every time you hear him proclaim he is stable or a genius he is giving warning signals. Underlying inferiority he knows he is not stable, a genius and has word finding problems when he speaks. Unable to make a deal this is the moment. This is the exact time if you are married to a Narcissist you may need shelter for battery. How does an entire nation get away from a Megalomanic (not accepted term now days)? You don’t, he is as much a danger to his supporters as any one else. I am familiar with direct experience with the more common variety of Narcissist. Trump is a rare breed on the worlds stage. Those doing his bidding are under duress. What might happen is happening Trump is in a rage. Even though I have dealt with more normal Narcism this one is for the history books.

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gordianot

(15,772 posts)
22. Narcissism is dependent on enablers.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 09:35 AM
Oct 2019

They are responsible for his behavior he will turn on them.

Response to gordianot (Reply #22)

gordianot

(15,772 posts)
27. I worked for one like most was not diagnosed.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:30 AM
Oct 2019

Narcissist seldom seek therapy. I did not know what it was until I did a clinical practicum. The one I worked for years ago, I did not have the terminology at the time. Even though I did not like this person he manipulated me enough to assist him. I understand completely how he is manipulating those surrounding him. The only way to deal with a Narcissistic Personality disorder is to get away from them. Narcissist live to use others their downfall is they demand adoration.

Response to gordianot (Reply #27)

kozar

(3,306 posts)
2. We are watching and witnessing history.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 07:46 AM
Oct 2019

Let us all know that know,, this isn't 20 seconds in Dealy Plaza history, this is history being made in slo-mo. And Zorro, you are exactly right, this week is different than all the other ramblings.

Koz

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
3. I have never seen anything like the 2 rants we witnessed yesterday
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 07:54 AM
Oct 2019

Full of lies, vicious slander and curses.

Trump is totally unhinged from whatever moorings he ever had.

My Son,who is totally not political, never watches the news, but I had flipped from Food network. He loves to cook, heard a few seconds of Trump and suddenly said,”” Get that man out of the WhiteHouse!”

ashredux

(2,928 posts)
6. What is REALLY frightening.....
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 08:28 AM
Oct 2019

As he continues his downward spiral, what dramatic action will he take, or try to take? He is still the Commander in Chief. This is just starting.

dlk

(13,245 posts)
7. If Trump is this unhinged now, what will he do when his taxes are released?
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 08:30 AM
Oct 2019

He’s about to become even uglier and heaven help us all!

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
13. True. And when Michael Cohen walks someone through
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 08:53 AM
Oct 2019

The parts he's familiar with.

Or if he gets impeached. It's not like he and Malaria will board a helicopter with a shred of dignity like Nixon did and wave goodbye.

Brainfodder

(7,781 posts)
8. All the lies, dick moves daily, what else he gotta do to get fired?
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 08:33 AM
Oct 2019

The media is finally challenging him, must be costing them $?

Pessimism, now that is real!

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
9. His display of fear
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 08:34 AM
Oct 2019

By his appearance and his attacks towards others , and his lying was one of the signals he knows he's done, then his attacks on Rep Schiff by calling him names was a show of his childish attempts blaming others for his exposing situation he put himself into. His desperation is growing daily now, but he showed us yesterday his fear he's lost already, which I think he already knows he has, and will be impeached. He's a cornered con man , and knows he can't continue handling this. This is taking a tole on his health, and I don't think he's well at all, and hiding that too. It's just a matter of time for this corrupt criminal. Even the GOP can see that now.

murielm99

(32,973 posts)
20. Colbert compared him to the old cat when
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 09:07 AM
Oct 2019

one brings a new cat home. It was funny, but scary.

We do not need a screechy cat running the government.

calimary

(89,959 posts)
30. But for the GOP, denial is as deep as the Mariana trench.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:45 AM
Oct 2019

And they’ll go down hard. You think trump is too proud? So are they.

Their pride won’t let them see the reality closing in around themselves. Don’t forget something key in human nature, especially the most immature: nobody wants to admit they’re wrong, or even worse, that they’ve been HAD. In this case, ROYALLY had.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
11. Of course there's always another possibility.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 08:41 AM
Oct 2019

All of the McDonalds that he keeps having Chris Christie fetch for him might just catch up to his "239" pound ass and he just might be found with a quarter pounder on his chest after the heart attack he gets during one of his nightly pillow talk sessions with Sean Hannity.

We can hope.

RESIST!

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
12. He would be SO much better off if he remained
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 08:49 AM
Oct 2019

Calm and just stuck with the story that corruption was rampant. Never released ANYTHING remotely resembling a transcript. It has holes but at least it has a tiny bit of validity. He could have simply said that his focus was on Hunter not Joe. And, that he was protecting taxpayer dollars.

Full of crap..but it just shows he isn't listening to anyone. Thankfully for us!!! He is mad at himself because he alone has blown this wide open.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
17. Craziest of all, he's implicating the two protectors he needs most: Pence and Barr.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 09:04 AM
Oct 2019

How nuts is that?

world wide wally

(21,836 posts)
21. We have had assholes in the White House before, but I have never seen anyone
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 09:19 AM
Oct 2019

so hateful and filled with rage.
And like the guy fishing and drinking beer all day... The truth is not in him.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(13,010 posts)
24. I think we are getting to see...
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 09:58 AM
Oct 2019

the real man, the one we only heard stories about going off on rages in the Oval Office. Whatever “filters” he had are clogged and it’ll only get worse.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
29. Floggin the Darn Horse!
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:35 AM
Oct 2019

If one had a good strategy, there are times to just let things go. The news cycle even contributes to that by its ceaseless churning.

But no, Trumpty repeatedly flogs dead horses with great vigor. He calls attention to things as if there is some psychological flaw or personality disorder that compels him to do it. The results are not really helping him, except maybe to maintain and influence is base, which may be a terrible strategy in the long-run, all things considered.

It is worth noting that we pay for his exploits one way or another. There are real issues at hand and no dearth of work to be done FOR this country and he is focusing our resources and time on himself and his personal issues at our expense. One of his primary concerns has been reelection, in fact, from the very beginning. As far as doing his job goes, he is the guy at work that spends all day on the Internet. That's unacceptable in itself.

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