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Zorro

(15,733 posts)
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:36 AM Apr 2020

Republicans overturned Florida voters' will. They must not win for good.

NEARLY TWO-THIRDS of Florida voters backed a state constitutional amendment 18 months ago to re-enfranchise released felons, an overwhelming bipartisan consensus that was promptly negated by Republican legislators. Those state lawmakers, determined to block ballot access to hundreds of thousands of Floridians — most of them white but a disproportionate share African American — now face their day in court in a lawsuit brought by the very citizens whose most basic civil rights they have tried to deny.

As Florida Republicans try to run out the clock ahead of the November presidential election, a trial started Monday in federal court in which former felons who have completed their sentences, including parole and probation, are contesting the GOP’s attempt to overturn the results of Florida’s 2018?referendum. They should prevail: The GOP action is an affront to the popular will. An estimated 1.4?million released felons in Florida, nearly 10?percent of the state’s voting-age population, were prohibited from voting as of 2016 — the highest number and percentage in the United States, according to the Sentencing Project. Among that cohort were a half-million African Americans, 20?percent of the state’s voting-age blacks.

Nearly 65 percent of Florida voters opted to undo those injustices, a lopsided majority in an electorate often closely divided. Undeterred, Republicans in Tallahassee led by Gov. Ron DeSantis enacted a bill last year that neutered the referendum’s outcome by barring any ex-convict from voting until their court costs and fees are paid.

According to expert testimony, more than 80?percent of Floridians who have completed their felony sentences still owe money — over $1 billion statewide. In many cases, though, it is virtually impossible for those individuals to find a definitive accounting of their debts. No state agency has a complete record, and some former felons who try to ascertain and pay what they owe descend into a rabbit hole of bureaucratic dysfunction and spotty record-keeping that varies wildly from county to county — “a mess,” in the words of U.S. District Judge Robert Hinkle, who is overseeing the lawsuit.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-are-florida-republicans-trying-to-keep-14-million-citizens-from-voting/2020/04/28/50634a58-88ad-11ea-9dfd-990f9dcc71fc_story.html

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Republicans overturned Florida voters' will. They must not win for good. (Original Post) Zorro Apr 2020 OP
Cheating in FL is horrible. We should not be an all red state. We have way too many Maraya1969 Apr 2020 #1
Felons have won on appeal. lark Apr 2020 #2
As much as I hate Republican Chicanery ... PBC_Democrat Apr 2020 #3
This is classic for my home state... mitch96 Apr 2020 #4
I thought Rick Scott killed the one to Orlando. To stick it to Obama? SharonAnn May 2020 #5
What ever the reason, it went away even though the people wanted it.. mitch96 May 2020 #6

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
1. Cheating in FL is horrible. We should not be an all red state. We have way too many
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 10:13 AM
Apr 2020

people from up north who live here now for us to mirror Mississippi!

lark

(23,083 posts)
2. Felons have won on appeal.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 10:45 AM
Apr 2020

Question is will Fl Repugs take this to SCOTUS who will side against the people?

fixed typo

PBC_Democrat

(401 posts)
3. As much as I hate Republican Chicanery ...
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:00 AM
Apr 2020

I also hate disingenuous, misleading commentary.

First, I voted FOR the amendment, as did 65% of the voters. I want to see voting rights restored!

Second, the amendment was written by Democrats.

Third, the full text of of the amendment is below. The portion causing the problem is "after they complete all terms of their sentence". If a fine/penalty was imposed as part of the sentence ... how should that be handled?

Fourth, this is a another case of a poorly written bill.

Fifth, I see this as an amazing opportunity for the Florida Democratic party to raise money and pay off these fines and penalties.

Expect more law suits demanding that the amendment be implemented as written and passed.


No. 4 Constitutional Amendment Article VI, Section 4. Voting Restoration Amendment This amendment restores the voting rights of Floridians with felony convictions after they complete all terms of their sentence including parole or probation. The amendment would not apply to those convicted of murder or sexual offenses, who would continue to be permanently barred from voting unless the Governor and Cabinet vote to restore their voting rights on a case by case basis.

mitch96

(13,885 posts)
4. This is classic for my home state...
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 01:29 PM
Apr 2020

Years ago we voted by a large majority to inact high speed rail. Every repuke legislature needed more "information" and had lots of VERY expensive inquires until it just died in legislature.. Catch and kill if you will... This state is run by repukes and won't change till they go away...
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mitch96

(13,885 posts)
6. What ever the reason, it went away even though the people wanted it..
Fri May 1, 2020, 07:00 AM
May 2020

Maybe the trucking lobby saw a threat? The airline lobby saw a threat?? Maybe the Florida Toll commission saw a drop in revenue? Who knows but it died a long slow death.
It would be tasty to go from Miami to Orlando in 1.5 hrs and NOT deal with the airports..
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