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Mon May 11, 2020, 10:40 PM

The Atlantic: 'Putin's Goal is to Bring Down American Democracy'

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/06/putin-american-democracy/610570/

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Reply The Atlantic: 'Putin's Goal is to Bring Down American Democracy' (Original post)
sprinkleeninow May 2020 OP
California_Republic May 2020 #1
StClone May 2020 #2
sprinkleeninow May 2020 #4
elleng May 2020 #3
Cha May 2020 #5
Mme. Defarge May 2020 #6
sprinkleeninow May 2020 #7
Cha May 2020 #8
sprinkleeninow May 2020 #10
Cha May 2020 #13
SCantiGOP May 2020 #9
Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #11
Hekate May 2020 #12
Rhiannon12866 May 2020 #14
sprinkleeninow May 2020 #15
Rhiannon12866 May 2020 #16
SheltieLover May 2020 #17
riversedge May 2020 #18
Gothmog May 2020 #19


Response to sprinkleeninow (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 10:58 PM

2. Vote by mail with off-line systems are needed.

Trump is against vote by mail. This is suspicious. It is as if he knows something about the results if the current system is allowed for the November 2020 election. The article indicates the deep and dangerous Russian probe of each state and what may be the results.

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Response to StClone (Reply #2)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:15 PM

4. Why * wants the USPS to fail from no funding.

All sinister schemes in the pipeline.

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Response to sprinkleeninow (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 10:59 PM

3. Yes, hearing this: happened, happening, will happen.

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Response to sprinkleeninow (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:17 PM

5. Never any doubt this has been happening.. Why

among many reasons we have to WIN!

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Response to Cha (Reply #5)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:28 PM

6. +1000

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Response to Cha (Reply #5)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:35 PM

7. Ringmaster in a living nightmare we are subjected to every waking day.

Mahalo, Cha. 💛

I'm quite weary presently.

FedEx brought my USPS goodies yesterday, but I'll open them up later today 'cause my get up an' go got up and went.

Pray you and yours are being sustained and encouraged with good health.
💐🌴🌈

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Response to sprinkleeninow (Reply #7)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:40 PM

8. Mahalo for the best wishes, Sprink..

I'm weary, too.. maybe tomorrow will be better?

Why would FedEx bring you your USPS goodies?

I wish the same for you and yours!

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Response to Cha (Reply #8)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:48 PM

10. Whatta dope! See--not thinking correctly. Got something else from FedEx and typed FedEx.

Whatta kookamunga! 🤣

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Response to sprinkleeninow (Reply #10)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:58 PM

13. lol.. glad I asked!

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Response to sprinkleeninow (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:43 PM

9. Definition of irony

30 years after the Wall comes down, the old Soviet spymaster finally defeats his enemy by planting an unwitting fool in their midst.

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Response to sprinkleeninow (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:49 PM

11. And isolate the USA from allies.

Trump has been trying to fulfill those wishes too, it seems.

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Response to sprinkleeninow (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 11:51 PM

12. KnR

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Response to sprinkleeninow (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 01:38 AM

14. K&R! Everyone needs to read this!

Dziękuję bardzo for posting!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #14)

Tue May 12, 2020, 03:07 AM

15. ...

Nie ma za co, dobra Pani!

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Response to sprinkleeninow (Reply #15)

Tue May 12, 2020, 03:12 AM

16. Great article - which I passed on!

Proszę bardzo!

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Response to sprinkleeninow (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 05:13 AM

17. K&R!

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Response to sprinkleeninow (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 06:08 AM

18. "Putin .... will never have a more reliable ally than Donald Trump."......



https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/06/putin-american-democracy/610570/

...............The sprawling federal bureaucracy has never been particularly adept at the kind of coordination necessary to anticipate a wily adversary’s next move. But there is another reason for the government’s alarmingly inadequate response: a president who sees attempts to counter the Russia threat as a personal affront.

After McMaster was fired, having made little if any progress on Russia, the director of national intelligence, Dan Coats, took up the cause, installing in his office an election-security adviser named Shelby Pierson. This past February, Pierson briefed Schiff’s committee that the Russians were planning to interfere in the upcoming election, and that Trump remained Moscow’s preferred candidate. Anyone who follows the president on Twitter knows this is a subject that provokes his fury. Indeed, the day after Pierson’s testimony, the president upbraided Coats’s successor, Joseph Maguire, for Pierson’s assessment. A week later, he fired Maguire and installed in his place the ambassador to Germany, Richard Grenell, a loyalist with no intelligence experience. Grenell immediately set about confirming the wisdom behind Trump’s choice. Three weeks into his tenure, a senior intelligence official in the Office of the DNI informed the Senate that Pierson’s assessment was mistaken.

Trump had graphically illustrated his recurring message to the intelligence community: He doesn’t want to hear warnings about Russian interference. Mark Warner, the highest-ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, told me, “A day doesn’t go by that I don’t hear from someone in the intelligence community saying, ‘Oh my gosh, we’re worried about integrity, we’re worried about morale, we’re worried about willingness to speak truth to power.’ ” I asked Warner whether he could still trust the intelligence about Russia he received—whether he has faith that the government will render an accurate portrait of the Russian threat to the upcoming presidential election. As he considered his answer, he leaned toward me. “I don’t know the answer to that,” he replied, “and that bothers me.”

Vladimir Putin dreams of discrediting the American democratic system, and he will never have a more reliable ally than Donald Trump. A democracy can’t defend itself if it can’t honestly describe the attacks against it. But the president hasn’t just undermined his own country’s defenses—he has actively abetted the adversary’s efforts.
If Russia wants to tarnish the political process as hopelessly rigged, it has a bombastic amplifier standing behind the seal of the presidency, a man who reflexively depicts his opponents as frauds and any system that produces an outcome he doesn’t like as fixed. If Russia wants to spread disinformation, the president continually softens an audience for it, by instructing the public to disregard authoritative journalism as the prevarications of a traitorous elite and by spouting falsehoods on Twitter.

In 2020, Russia might not need to push the U.S. for it to suffer a terrible election-year tumble. Even without interventions from abroad, it is shockingly easy to imagine how a pandemic might provide a pretext for indefinitely delaying an election or how this president, narrowly dispatched at the polls, might refuse to accept defeat. But restraint wouldn’t honor Russia’s tradition of Active Measures. And there may never be a moment quite so ripe for taking the old hashtag out of storage and giving it a triumphalist turn. #DemocracyRIP.

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Response to sprinkleeninow (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 07:01 AM

19. Putin is getting a great return on his investment in trump

This is the DU member formerly known as Gothmog.

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