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Amy-Strange

(854 posts)
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 09:20 PM Jun 2020

Does an Exception Clause in the 13th Amendment Still Permit Slavery?

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Does an Exception Clause in the 13th Amendment Still Permit Slavery?

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The 13th Amendment, ratified in 1865, says: “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.” Scholars, activists and prisoners have linked that exception clause to the rise of a prison system that incarcerates black people at more than five times the rate of white people, and profits off of their unpaid or underpaid labor.

“What we see after the passage of the 13th Amendment is a couple of different things converging,” says Andrea Armstrong, a law professor at Loyola University in New Orleans. “First, the 13th Amendment text allows for involuntary servitude where convicted of a crime.” At the same time, “black codes” in the south created “new types of offenses, especially attitudinal offenses—not showing proper respect, those types of things.”

After the Civil War, new offenses like “malicious mischief” were vague, and could be a felony or misdemeanor depending on the supposed severity of behavior. These laws sent more black people to prison than ever before, and by the late 19th century the country experienced its first “prison boom,” legal scholar Michelle Alexander writes in her book The New Jim Crow.

“After a brief period of progress during Reconstruction, African Americans found themselves, once again, virtually defenseless,” Alexander writes. “The criminal justice system was strategically employed to force African Americans back into a system of extreme repression and control, a tactic that would continue to prove successful for generations to come.”

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https://www.history.com/news/13th-amendment-slavery-loophole-jim-crow-prisons
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Does an Exception Clause in the 13th Amendment Still Permit Slavery? (Original Post) Amy-Strange Jun 2020 OP
There Is No Question It Does, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2020 #1
That it does, but... Amy-Strange Jun 2020 #2
Just watched cilla4progress Jun 2020 #3
Prison inmates who have jobs, do not need to be paid the federal minimum wage. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2020 #4
Yeah, and it doesn't make sense either! n/t Amy-Strange Jun 2020 #5
Room and board count towards minimum wage, sort of. marie999 Jun 2020 #6

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
1. There Is No Question It Does, Sir
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 09:25 PM
Jun 2020

Penal slavery is a fact, and has been for a very long time. It is only private ownership, and sale, which is forbidden, and 'contract' labor by convicts goes a good way to circumventing even that restriction.

Amy-Strange

(854 posts)
2. That it does, but...
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 09:42 PM
Jun 2020

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the article focuses more on what happened after the 13th Amendment was passed, like "black codes" and Jim Crow laws that legally helped to re-enslave blacks.

It's an interesting read.
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marie999

(3,334 posts)
6. Room and board count towards minimum wage, sort of.
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 02:01 AM
Jun 2020

I don't know how that would apply to prisons since the room and board must be voluntary.

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