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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 03:25 PM Jun 2020

Funny how Trump's dislike for 'losers' doesn't extend to Confederate generals

We are suffering from “monumental” confusion about historical statues, place names and symbols. Some on the right, including President Trump, insist that we continue to honor prominent Confederates. Some on the left — mercifully not in the mainstream — are attacking statues of American icons such as George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Ulysses S. Grant. Both sides insist it’s all or nothing: The far right says we shouldn’t rename anything because then we will rename everything. The far left is just fine with renaming everything. I reject the extremes of both sides and so, I suspect, do most Americans.

We need to draw some fine distinctions here. Study the specifics of each individual to decide whether he or she is still worth honoring. The rule of thumb should be that those who contributed a great deal to the development of our country deserve to be recognized, however flawed they were as human beings.

The Founding Fathers easily pass the test. Jefferson, Washington and other Founders were slaveholders, but they also produced a Declaration of Independence that declared “all men are created equal.” The Constitution did not make good on that promise for far too long, but eventually it was amended and laws were passed to extend the blessings of liberty to all Americans.

Grant fought to defeat the Confederacy as a Union general and then, as president, he fought against the Ku Klux Klan. That far outweighs the fact that he briefly owned one slave whom he freed before the Civil War. Frederick Douglass said of Grant: “In him the Negro found a protector, the Indian a friend, a vanquished foe a brother, an imperiled nation a savior.” Grant deserves to be honored more — not less. There are 10 U.S. Army bases named for Confederate officers. All of them should be renamed — one of them for Grant.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/23/funny-how-trumps-dislike-losers-doesnt-extend-confederate-generals/

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Funny how Trump's dislike for 'losers' doesn't extend to Confederate generals (Original Post) Zorro Jun 2020 OP
Kick and recommend. bronxiteforever Jun 2020 #1
Himself and his KKK heroes are all "winners" in his cooked book Blue Owl Jun 2020 #2
Max Boot (Repub Never Trumper) scorched him with this one and spooky3 Jun 2020 #3

Blue Owl

(50,349 posts)
2. Himself and his KKK heroes are all "winners" in his cooked book
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 03:31 PM
Jun 2020

Too bad he can't see the real truth, that they're all miserable failure losers without a shred of human decency...

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