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appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 08:54 AM Jul 2020

"Covid-19 Immunity From Antibodies May Last Only Months, UK Study Suggests"

- "Covid-19 immunity from antibodies may last only months, UK study suggests." By Jacqueline Howard, CNN, July 13, 2020. - Edited:

After people are infected with the novel coronavirus, their natural immunity to the virus could decline within months, a new pre-print paper suggests. The paper, released on the medical server medrxiv.org on Saturday and not yet published in a peer-reviewed medical journal, suggests that antibody responses may start to decline 20 to 30 days after Covid-19 symptoms emerge. Antibodies are the proteins the body makes to fight infection. "We show that IgM and IgA binding responses decline after 20-30 days," the researchers from institutions in the UK wrote in the paper, which also found that the severity of Covid-19 symptoms can determine the magnitude of the antibody response. The new study included samples collected from 65 patients with confirmed Covid-19 up to 94 days after they started showing symptoms and from 31 health care workers who had antibody tests every one to two weeks between March and June.

In general, it can take one to three weeks after infection for your body to make antibodies, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Since early on in the pandemic, the WHO has warned that people who have had Covid-19 are not necessarily immune from getting the virus again. Yet the new study had some limitations, including that more research is needed to determine whether similar results would emerge among a larger group of patients and what data could show over longer periods of time when it comes to infection with the coronavirus, named SARS-CoV-2. "This study has important implications when considering protection against re-infection with SARS-CoV-2 and the durability of vaccine protection," the researchers wrote in the paper.

- What this means for a Covid-19 vaccine

Even though it has yet to be peer reviewed, "the importance of this study is clear and the research has been rigorously undertaken," Stephen Griffins, at the University of Leeds, UK, who was not involved in the new study, said in a written statement distributed by the UK-based Science Media Centre on Monday. "This work confirms that protective antibody responses in those infected with SARS-COV2, the coronavirus that causes COVID-19, appear to wane rapidly. Whilst longer lasting in those with more severe disease, this is still only a matter of months," Griffins said. "Similar short-lived responses are seen against other human coronaviruses that predominantly cause only mild illness, meaning that we can be re-infected as time goes by and outbreaks can adopt seasonality. With the more serious, sometimes fatal, outcomes of SARS-COV2, this is troubling indeed," Griffins said. "Vaccines in development will either need to generate stronger and longer lasting protection compared to natural infection, or they may need to be given regularly."

As of last week, there were 21 Covid-19 candidate vaccines in clinical evaluation globally, according to WHO. "Even if you're left with no detectable circulating antibodies, that doesn't necessarily mean you have no protective immunity because you likely have memory immune cells (B & T cells) that can rapidly kick into action to start up a new immune response if you re-encounter the virus. So you might well get a milder infection," said UK Dr. Mala Maini. B cells make antibodies to neutralize infectious microbes, like a virus, and T cells attack the infection directly and help control the immune response. When a person has been infected before, those cells might remember the infection and amp up the immune response, leading to a re-infection possibly being less severe than otherwise. "But this study reinforces the message that we can't assume someone who has had COVID-19 can't get it again just because they initially became antibody positive," "It also means a negative antibody test now can't exclude you having had COVID-19 a few months ago"...

Read More, https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/covid-19-immunity-from-antibodies-may-last-only-months-uk-study-suggests/ar-BB16GKHp

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"Covid-19 Immunity From Antibodies May Last Only Months, UK Study Suggests" (Original Post) appalachiablue Jul 2020 OP
k&r for science, no matter how depressing the truth may be. n/t Laelth Jul 2020 #1
I'm with you, Laelth SheltieLover Jul 2020 #2
Please see post #3 Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #5
Yes SheltieLover Jul 2020 #7
See post #3 and don't immediately seize on something to become depressed. We are learning lots. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #4
Thank you. n/t Laelth Jul 2020 #6
While antibodies may drop, new study found T cells ready to defend against re-infection Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #3
Antibodies are only part of immunity..... marmar Jul 2020 #8
People here keep on posting this stuff about how the immunity may not last very long. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #9

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
3. While antibodies may drop, new study found T cells ready to defend against re-infection
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 10:01 AM
Jul 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213746036
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/t-cells-found-covid-19-patients-bode-well-long-term-immunity?fbclid=IwAR1cKY5K2Ri9Yhav3Kw5pO2TkArMmD80n7l0uJ4_5NyzOeuZBsC7uoWGMvM

Immune warriors known as T cells help us fight some viruses, but their importance for battling SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, has been unclear. Now, two studies reveal infected people harbor T cells that target the virus—and may help them recover. Both studies also found some people never infected with SARS-CoV-2 have these cellular defenses, most likely because they were previously infected with other coronaviruses.

“This is encouraging data,” says virologist Angela Rasmussen of Columbia University. Although the studies don’t clarify whether people who clear a SARS-CoV-2 infection can ward off the virus in the future, both identified strong T cell responses to it, which “bodes well for the development of long-term protective immunity,” Rasmussen says. The findings could also help researchers create better vaccines.


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PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,852 posts)
9. People here keep on posting this stuff about how the immunity may not last very long.
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 01:59 PM
Jul 2020

If that were true, I would think that by now we'd be seeing a lot of people getting infected a second time. But that doesn't seem to be the case.

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