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Mosby

(16,334 posts)
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 01:51 PM Aug 2020

The Mythology of Karen

What does it mean to call a woman a “Karen”? The origins of any meme are hard to pin down, and this one has spread with the same intensity as the coronavirus, and often in parallel with it. Karens are “the policewomen of all human behavior.” Karens don’t believe in vaccines. Karens have short hair. Karens are selfish. Confusingly, Karens are both the kind of petty enforcers who patrol other people’s failures at social distancing, and the kind of entitled women who refuse to wear a mask because it’s a “muzzle.”

Oh, and Karens are most definitely white. Let that ease your conscience if you were beginning to wonder whether the meme was, perhaps, a little bit sexist in identifying various universal negative behaviors and attributing them exclusively to women. “Because Karen is white, she faces few meaningful repercussions,” wrote Robin Abcarian in the Los Angeles Times. “Embarrassing videos posted on social media is usually as bad as it gets for Karen.”

Sorry, but no. You can’t control a word, or an idea, once it’s been released into the wild. Epithets linked to women have a habit of becoming sexist insults; we don’t tend to describe men as bossy, ditzy, or nasty. They’re not called mean girls or prima donnas or drama queens, even when they totally are. And so Karen has followed the trajectory of dozens of words before it, becoming a cloak for casual sexism as well as a method of criticizing the perceived faux vulnerability of white women.

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https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/08/karen-meme-coronavirus/615355/

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The Mythology of Karen (Original Post) Mosby Aug 2020 OP
Any white middle aged woman seen complaining, expressing or challenging may be that Karen. LizBeth Aug 2020 #1
Didn't it come from the show with African American hosts (men and women both) with a segment BigDemVoter Aug 2020 #5
Gotta send this to my wife underpants Aug 2020 #2
LOL!!! grobertj Aug 2020 #3
Look Karen Descrypticon Aug 2020 #4

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
1. Any white middle aged woman seen complaining, expressing or challenging may be that Karen.
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 01:58 PM
Aug 2020

Ya, it is sexist and about dismissing women and their voice. And then to put that along with the vile racist women calling cops for being black in any number of situations lessens the vile racist to a sillly meme.

It started with a man on reddit? 4chan? pissed at an x gf. Then carried to the service industry of a middle age woman not being treated special enough in her privilege which then mitigated its way to vile racist women.

BigDemVoter

(4,154 posts)
5. Didn't it come from the show with African American hosts (men and women both) with a segment
Fri Aug 21, 2020, 05:47 PM
Aug 2020

called "Crazy Ass White People"? I'm sorry I cannot remember the name of the show in general--I just remember the segment that plays regularly.

Descrypticon

(3 posts)
4. Look Karen
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 02:16 PM
Aug 2020

tired of this debate...

Look, Karen, there are epithets for everyone. They aren't meant to be nice. Just because there is one to label this fussy behavior doesn't mean it's wrong. It's not going away. As a gay man, I am -thoroughly- familiar with epithets. And the fact that you can't just call it off limits. The internet is a beast, but we have to grow a thicker skin, FFS.

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