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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,881 posts)
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 12:55 PM Sep 2020

LA Times - We mailed 100 letters to test the Postal Service.

The verdict: Spotty at best, dismal at worst

The letter — filled with stickers for a 5-year-old boy named William — was mailed at the post office in the Los Angeles community of Sylmar on Aug. 22. It was sent first class, at a cost of 55 cents, and with a promise, according to the U.S. Postal Service website, of "delivery in 1-3 business days."

The plain white envelope arrived at its destination, a ranch-style house in Austin, Texas, 11 days later.

Another letter, mailed from Malibu to the San Francisco suburb of Millbrae, sat in a Los Angeles processing center for three days and wasn't delivered for an additional four days after that.

And a letter sent from the Alhambra post office to a residence in Washington, D.C., took four days to get to the mail processing center in the capital, and three more days elapsed before it reached its final destination.

The slow mail service from Los Angeles to cities near and far was just one of the findings of a Los Angeles Times effort to test, in a small but revealing way, the reliability of the Postal Service as it comes under increasing scrutiny due to deep cuts by the Trump administration.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/we-mailed-100-letters-to-test-the-postal-service-the-verdict-spotty-at-best-dismal-at-worst/ar-BB193GHo?li=BBnb7Kz

Heckuva job Trumpy
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LA Times - We mailed 100 letters to test the Postal Service. (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2020 OP
This needs to be repeated from every major city. CrispyQ Sep 2020 #1
Random zip codes would be better Midnightwalk Sep 2020 #4
Well, that wouldn't be random matt819 Sep 2020 #10
We did a test of absentee ballot size envelopes. DFW Sep 2020 #21
that is actually quite easy to do yellowdogintexas Sep 2020 #17
The damage a malignant narcissist / sociopath can do is incalculable DSandra Sep 2020 #6
USPS was so good! Bobstandard Sep 2020 #2
I know. How can you screw up the post office? klook Sep 2020 #7
What a way to further destroy small businesses in America DSandra Sep 2020 #11
He has done a heck of a job wryter2000 Sep 2020 #3
All because Trump has a mad on.... SergeStorms Sep 2020 #27
If this were just incompetence SCantiGOP Sep 2020 #5
What you get when a tyrant takes over... DSandra Sep 2020 #14
There have been issues for years MosheFeingold Sep 2020 #23
"In over 200 years, I'm the only one who has been able to destoy the post office!" n/t thesquanderer Sep 2020 #8
Rat bastards. dchill Sep 2020 #9
Vote Early In Person Indyfan53 Sep 2020 #12
Wow. Just unbelievable. nt iluvtennis Sep 2020 #13
Not just "deep cuts by the Trump administration" it's SABATOGE by the Trump administration OMGWTF Sep 2020 #15
Mussolini kept the railroads on time, Trump fails at everything RainCaster Sep 2020 #16
K&R and Bookmarking! calimary Sep 2020 #18
your local rw/putin radio station has been setting this up for 20-30 years certainot Sep 2020 #19
I believe mail-in ballots in red states will run fairly normal, the problem will be in blue states KS Toronado Sep 2020 #20
11 days to go from one end of L.A. to another! That is the result of DeJoy's intentional sabotage. SunSeeker Sep 2020 #22
Trump and DeJoy may go fuck themselves now Blue Owl Sep 2020 #24
Seven days for a letter to go from L.A. to S.F. dalton99a Sep 2020 #25
All just to screw Jeff Bezos. House of Roberts Sep 2020 #26

CrispyQ

(36,446 posts)
1. This needs to be repeated from every major city.
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 01:00 PM
Sep 2020

I knew a Trump presidency would be bad, but I didn't imagine just how much damage he would do. I'm stunned. And horrified.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
4. Random zip codes would be better
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 01:22 PM
Sep 2020

I bet we would see mail delays correlate with how the area voted.

I’d love to see voting delays (time spent in line) tracked the same way.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
10. Well, that wouldn't be random
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 02:50 PM
Sep 2020

But your point is a good one. The problem, though, is that mail moves through any number of post offices from origin to destination. Obviously, some will be in red states, others in blue states, and yet others in purple states.

Another possible test would be to send pieces that are the size of absentee ballots, and see how this affects delivery. Another test would be to send mail from/to local red areas and from/to local blue areas, and see how that affects delivery.

The major newspapers could solicit mailing addresses nationwide and then run their test. Nationwide mailing from blue to red, red to blue, blue to blue, red to red, and totally random. And then local mail within blue/blue and red/red areas.

I send most of my packages via Priority Mail, and I just did a spot check of recent orders. Some delivered in 2 days, as promised. Others up to 5 days. I'm going to do a more thorough analysis when I have some time and report back.

DFW

(54,330 posts)
21. We did a test of absentee ballot size envelopes.
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 03:51 PM
Sep 2020

Not intentionally, but it turned out as if it were a test case. Some distant ancestor of ours in New York City had some trust fund that sent me $89 or some such princely sum every year. This either ran dry or was eaten up by fees, or something that caused this year to be the end of it. I’m glad, actually, because the resulting paperwork and tax declaration were more than they were worth. My brother in Virginia got his on July 31st. Mine arrived in Dallas on August 14th, the day I arrived back in Germany. They had been sent from NYC on the same day.

As a contrast, I recently sent a letter from here (Düsseldorf area) to Dallas. It took 7 days to get there, so it isn’t some worldwide virus problem. It is a Trump-Miller-Kushner-DeJoy problem. It is a Republican problem.

yellowdogintexas

(22,250 posts)
17. that is actually quite easy to do
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 02:57 PM
Sep 2020

We do it through our ePollbooks by handing the person at the end of the line a barcoded receipt. When that person reaches our desk, we scan it and will see the wait time. At that point we can advise the Elections Office of the wait time at our location.

This election we will probably do it every 2 hours which is when we post our total # of voters on the door

Seems to me in a less electronic setting, the judge could take a card to the last voter in line with the time written on it, then record that time when the voter reaches the desk then contact the elections office.

Since we can vote at any polling place in the county on Election Day, if we have long wait times, the Elections office can let us know the wait times at other polling places nearby.

Bobstandard

(1,303 posts)
2. USPS was so good!
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 01:09 PM
Sep 2020

My small book publishing comps mails using the media mail rate. The delivery promise is 2-8 days. Most packages arrived in 2-3. Now they take weeks prompting order cancellations and refunds.

That’s how trump supports small business.

klook

(12,154 posts)
7. I know. How can you screw up the post office?
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 02:47 PM
Sep 2020

It's like making tap water unsafe, a sign of basic incompetence and civic irresponsibility.


- Flint Water Crisis: Everything You Need to Know (Natural Resources Defense Council)

Something that should be easy to avoid but that Republicans are also quite good at.

DSandra

(999 posts)
11. What a way to further destroy small businesses in America
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 02:50 PM
Sep 2020

America is quickly becoming more neo-feudalist with only big corporations, businesses working with big corporations, and businesses backed by the rich being able to survive. Your either a serf or a lord.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
27. All because Trump has a mad on....
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:43 AM
Sep 2020

about Bezos, an actual billionaire. "I'll show you. I'll destroy everything!"


SCantiGOP

(13,868 posts)
5. If this were just incompetence
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 02:17 PM
Sep 2020

That would be awful.
The fact that it is purposeful, and for an illegal political reason, moves it into malfeasance and criminal activity.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
23. There have been issues for years
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 06:55 PM
Sep 2020

I got a letter from my mom sent to me in Germany shortly after WWII sometime in 1960 -- back home in NYC.

About 3/4 of here letters never made it.

And this was AFTER the Army censors stopped doing their thing.

Indyfan53

(473 posts)
12. Vote Early In Person
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 02:52 PM
Sep 2020

Trump sabotaged to post office! We can’t risk our ballots being delayed in the mail! Mask up and vote early in person!

RainCaster

(10,857 posts)
16. Mussolini kept the railroads on time, Trump fails at everything
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 02:55 PM
Sep 2020

A job as simple as keeping the post office running, and he screws it up royally. What a loser.

calimary

(81,193 posts)
18. K&R and Bookmarking!
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 03:18 PM
Sep 2020

I’ve got a couple of mail-related issues too.

We’ve all joked about the post office but despite that it’s the most popular entity out there. Recent polling had it first with something like 91% public approval.

KS Toronado

(17,189 posts)
20. I believe mail-in ballots in red states will run fairly normal, the problem will be in blue states
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 03:46 PM
Sep 2020

Blue states/cities are where the mail sorting machines were taken out, this was done on
purpose by trumpf and DeNojoy for a reason. The question is what is that reason, it certainly
wasn't to help get every ballot counted. Are they attempting to flip blue states red for their
Electoral College votes? Don the Con will do everything he can to stay out of jail another 4
years. So would everybody having that much power. I encourage everyone voting by mail in
blue states to forego the post office wherever possible and hand deliver their ballots.

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