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Budi

(15,325 posts)
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 03:57 PM Oct 2020

"Maxwell Never Saw Clinton on Epstein's Island": Deposition Update

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-10-22/ghislaine-maxwell-s-2016-deposition-is-unsealed-maxwell-update

Maxwell Never Saw Clinton on Epstein’s Island: Deposition Update

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“I Don’t Know What You Mean by Puppet” (2:39 p.m.)
There are several pages of questions about a puppet, including a sustained back-and-forth about how a puppet is defined. According to Slate, which says it has cracked the code for some of the redactions, these are references to Prince Andrew. Maxwell says in the deposition that she doesn’t recall asking Virginia Giuffre to sit on someone’s lap with a puppet -- or “caricature” -- of a person whose name was redacted.

Never Saw Bill Clinton on Epstein’s Island (2:10 p.m.)

Bill Clinton never visited Epstein’s private Caribbean island while Maxwell was there, according to her sworn testimony. Pressed to describe any instances in which Epstein hosted the former president on his private plane or his island, Little St. James, she responded emphatically.

Virginia is absolutely totally lying,” she testified. “This is a subject of defamation about Virginia and the lies she has told and one of [the] lies she told was that President Clinton was on the island where I was present. Absolutely 1000% that is a flat-out total fabrication and lie.”

Clinton’s name is one of the few that weren’t redacted in the 465-page document, which includes several pages of questions about men Epstein knew and whether they were introduced to girls. There is no evidence the 42nd president engaged in any wrongdoing in association with Epstein.
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WHY wasn't Bill Clinton's name redacted along with the many others?

Who decided Clinton's name be exposed while other prominant names be hidden from public view?



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FM123

(10,385 posts)
2. Exactly! Who is doing the deciding?
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 04:38 PM
Oct 2020
WHY wasn't Bill Clinton's name redacted along with the many others?

Who decided Clinton's name be exposed while other prominant names be hidden from public view?

58Sunliner

(6,411 posts)
3. Several others weren't redacted either. So what. The flight logs show Clinton taking trips.
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 05:14 PM
Oct 2020

How is that some actually believe a trafficker and a rapist when it suits them. I don't know what happened, irrefutably, but I don't think I'm going to count on the word of a perpetrator. Please tell me what the victim gains from identifying BC. She does not allege anything regarding him, merely states he was seen on the island.
And can anyone really say that Clinton did not know what Epstein was? He isn't blind, deaf or dumb. It was, apparently known, exactly what JE's predilections were. It really strains credulity to try to posture a defense behind this criminal woman.

StevieM

(10,583 posts)
5. I will say he didn't know.
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:19 PM
Oct 2020

And President Clinton does not require a defense. There is no evidence demonstrating he did anything wrong.

Criminals don't publicly announce they are committing crimes, and Bill had no way of knowing what one person he knew--one of thousands--was up to.

Bill Clinton decided to use his post-presidency to set up a global charity that has saved what may well be millions of lives. That requires a constant effort to reach out to wealthy people in order to ask them for donations. That doesn't make him responsible for the actions of those donors, let alone indicative that he may be taking part in their crimes.

mopinko

(73,930 posts)
4. he always struck me as the enthusiastic consent sort.
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 05:35 PM
Oct 2020

at least in all the dreams i had about him he was.

but srsly, jennifer flowers said some stuff that led me to believe he was a guy who wanted grown women who were all in.

StevieM

(10,583 posts)
6. I agree.
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:25 PM
Oct 2020

Every single accusation of harassment and assault against him was in some way connected to Ken Starr. But I did not find the stories to be credible, much the way I did not see the stories accusing him of murder and drug running to be credible.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
7. Thanks. Starr AND Roger Stone...no one sets up a charachter damning sex scandal like Roger Stone!
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:50 PM
Oct 2020

Stone has been behind more salacious hits on an opponant than anyone in history.

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