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Arkansas Granny

(31,535 posts)
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 05:23 AM Oct 2020

You're Not Supposed to Understand the Rumors About Biden

On Tuesday, Fox News’ Laura Ingraham broke some news: An “investigative journalist” named Matthew Tyrmand had uncovered a cache of 26,000 emails belonging to Hunter Biden’s disgraced business partner Bevan Cooney, who is now in jail. Tyrmand claimed that he had gotten hold of the emails via a person in the same facility as Cooney (a “federal work camp for white-collar infractions,” is how Tyrmand put it). Tyrmand explained that Cooney felt stiffed by Biden, the son of the Democratic presidential nominee, Joe Biden, and implied that Cooney had handed over his own Gmail password in an act of revenge.

Perhaps that’s what happened. Or perhaps not: I have good reason to doubt the reliability of the source. The last time I saw Tyrmand was in October 2017. I was speaking at the Harvard Ukrainian Research Institute and he was in the audience. Security guards were keeping an eye on him after I warned them that he might show up: He’d come to another public lecture of mine the previous day in New York City, then had turned up in Boston and announced on Twitter that he was following me to Cambridge. His goal, I think, was to shout at me and draw attention to himself while waving a cellphone camera in the air, which is what he’d done in the past. But the lecture went off smoothly; afterward, a very gentle and very tall Harvard professor stood firmly between us, engaging Tyrmand in vigorous conversation so that I could slip away unharassed. I didn’t hear directly from Tyrmand after that—I block the social-media accounts of tiresome trolls. But I gather that, year in and year out, he continues to post obsessively about me and my husband, a Polish politician, including photographs taken surreptitiously in public places. I have no idea why.

A clue might come from a 2016 New Yorker story in which Tyrmand (who is described as an “investor,” not a journalist) plays a minor role in a ludicrously clumsy attempt to run a sting operation on the Open Society Foundations, which are funded by the prodemocracy philanthropist George Soros. The deception failed, according to The New Yorker’s Jane Mayer, because James O’Keefe, the notoriously unprincipled leader of a group called Project Veritas, forgot to hang up the phone after calling the Open Society office. In a long voicemail, he inadvertently recorded himself plotting to embarrass Soros. These are people who think that smear campaigns are politics, harassment is journalism, and online stalking is something you do for fun.

For those trying to follow along at home, the emails produced by Tyrmand are not the same emails that originally appeared on a laptop that Hunter Biden supposedly left at a Delaware computer-repair shop, the laptop that then became a story in the New York Post (and whose contents, according to a report in Time, were circulating previously in Ukraine). This is a different cache, one that is even more tangential to the U.S. presidential campaign and even harder to understand. In order to even make sense of the messages’ content, the reader must learn the backstories of a whole new cast of characters, not just Cooney but two other convicted fraudsters named Devon Archer and Jason Galanis; the wife of the former mayor of Moscow, Yelena Baturina; and Chris Heinz, John Kerry’s stepson, who broke away from the group; as well as their relationships, their jokes (they refer to Baturina as the “USSR woman’s shot put champion”), and the rules of the ugly world they inhabit. In order to link them to Joe Biden, you have to turn somersaults, do triple flips, and squint very hard.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/smears-against-biden-dont-need-make-any-sense/616824/

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You're Not Supposed to Understand the Rumors About Biden (Original Post) Arkansas Granny Oct 2020 OP
Read this RFN Sedona Oct 2020 #1
You don't need to follow the chain of thought. Aussie105 Oct 2020 #2
That's good information. Thanks for posting it. Jim__ Oct 2020 #3
Thanks for posting. This is why I subscribe to The Atlantic. chia Oct 2020 #4
Great read. This reminds me of my Hannity test underpants Oct 2020 #5
They feel free to lie because they know their audience doesn't fact check and Arkansas Granny Oct 2020 #6
"... researchers ... have found that even the meanings of some words are now polarized" Jim__ Oct 2020 #7

Aussie105

(5,444 posts)
2. You don't need to follow the chain of thought.
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 06:10 AM
Oct 2020

You just need to retain something like 'Biden mumble mumble emails mumble bad mumble mumble can't vote for him!'

Remember . . . Hillary . . . but her emails . . . can't vote for her!

Sad that someone bothers to set that up. Even sadder some people believe it.

With Trump though, you don't need to make anything up. All the BAD is out in the open.

underpants

(182,950 posts)
5. Great read. This reminds me of my Hannity test
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 09:30 AM
Oct 2020

Last edited Sat Oct 24, 2020, 12:46 PM - Edit history (1)

I’ve asked friends to listen to the first 10 minutes of his radio show. It’s on tape delay in our market. Write down references and inside jokes that don’t register with them. I ask that they tell me the number from the first night. They also spend an hour or so googling. A few have taken me up on it and the number is usually at least 5 sometimes 15 - in 10 minutes.

They have almost their only language. You have to immerse yourself in it a bit to understand it. For instance, the Moscow Mayor’s wife and $3.5 M - I understood that a firm Hunter was a founder of did take that money not directly to him but they firm. Now I read that he wasn’t a founder and may have had nothing to do with that organization. See how it works.

Arkansas Granny

(31,535 posts)
6. They feel free to lie because they know their audience doesn't fact check and
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 11:02 AM
Oct 2020

they won't believe those who do. They are displaying willful ignorance at its finest.

Jim__

(14,089 posts)
7. "... researchers ... have found that even the meanings of some words are now polarized"
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 03:14 PM
Oct 2020

FWIW from phys.org

It's not news that U.S. politics are highly polarized or that polarization affects cable news channels. But researchers at Carnegie Mellon University, using computer translation tools in an unprecedented way, have found that even the meanings of some words are now polarized.

Everyone is speaking English, they said, yet the computer analysis of social media discussions shows viewers of different news channels are, in a sense, speaking different languages.

Based on millions of user comments on the YouTube channels for four leading cable news outlets, it seems that viewers of right-wing outlets think of "Burisma," in the same way that their left-wing counterparts think of "Kushner." A "protest" to one set of viewers is a "riot" to another. For one, it's a "mask," to another, a "muzzle."

"Black Lives Matter" (BLM) in CNN English is equivalent to "All Lives Matter" in Fox News English. Even more extreme, some right-wing news viewers use "BLM" in the same context as left-wing news viewers use "KKK" (Ku Klux Klan).

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