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ItsjustMe

(11,250 posts)
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 10:06 PM Nov 2020

Trump Is Terrified About Going To Prison After Losing the election, as he should be.

The president is said to be not only worried about “existing investigations” but new federal probes into matters we don’t even know about yet.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/11/donald-trump-post-white-house-prosecutions

In September 2019, Donald Trump’s lawyers debuted a bold new legal argument. Attempting to quash a subpoena from the Manhattan District Attorney’s office, which had requested eight years of tax returns to determine if the Trump Organization has falsified business records relating to payouts made to a porn star and a Playboy model, the president’s attorneys insisted that such a request was unconstitutional because the founding fathers believed sitting presidents should not be subject to the criminal process, which would “distract the president” from his duties. Pressed by a judge on this argument, and the hypothetical Trump busted out during the 2016 election—that he could “stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody” and not “lose any voters”—attorney William Consovoy insisted that yes, that kind of thing would fall under this concept of “presidential immunity,” i.e. Trump could put a bullet in a random pedestrian and avoid prosecution until moving out of the White House.

Unsurprisingly, actual legal experts weren’t convinced of this argument and neither was the Supreme Court, which ruled last July, in the words of Reuters, “that there are limits to the powers of the presidency and stoutly reaffirmed the principle that not even the president is above the law.” Still, Trump’s lackeys, which include the Attorney General of the United States, have done their part to shield him from situations wherein he could be convicted of a variety of crimes, getting him through almost an entire term without an embarrassing situation wherein a sitting president is, say, found guilty of falsifying business records regarding a hush money payment he made to an adult-film star.

Unfortunately for Trump, if he loses the 2020 election, he’ll no longer be able to use the staff of the Justice Department as his personal lawyers. That’s a worrisome thing for a guy who’s potentially committed numerous crimes, and we know this because Trump is reportedly soiling himself in fear over what he might be prosecuted for, and maybe go to jail over, after he leaves office. Per the New York Times:

As The New Yorker’s Jane Mayer wrote in an article published over the weekend, the world awaiting Trump when and if he loses the election is a dark one, and not just because he’ll no longer have a taxpayer-funded staff at his disposal to lie for him:

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Trump Is Terrified About Going To Prison After Losing the election, as he should be. (Original Post) ItsjustMe Nov 2020 OP
Lock that fucking piece of shit up Blue Owl Nov 2020 #1
ALL of them! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Nov 2020 #12
I still think he'll flee. Laffy Kat Nov 2020 #2
My guess is the UAE. alittlelark Nov 2020 #7
I've thought about that, too. Laffy Kat Nov 2020 #8
HAH! OldBaldy1701E Nov 2020 #13
Yup - the Aeroflot charter is already booked. Stop that plane! lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #17
ROFL! OldBaldy1701E Nov 2020 #18
I heard they weren't flying the Antonov anymore. Aristus Nov 2020 #19
Yes, but unfortunately, the only destination for the Atlas is orbit. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #20
No need to attach a crew capsule. Aristus Nov 2020 #21
Slim Pickens style? lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #22
Yes. Aristus Nov 2020 #23
That's what Stormy said. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #24
... Aristus Nov 2020 #25
I wish she would flee, do some shit hole country they will take him. raccoon Nov 2020 #16
Good. TDale313 Nov 2020 #3
A Supreme Master of the Obvious C_U_L8R Nov 2020 #4
Aside from himself, maybe... Harker Nov 2020 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Nov 2020 #26
Every DUers favorite moran. Harker Nov 2020 #27
That's where the murderous piece of shit belongs. onecaliberal Nov 2020 #5
I think pursuing all legal action against him will be the only way to shut his pie hole CentralMass Nov 2020 #6
But...but... volstork Nov 2020 #9
Maybe he will flee to Saudi Arabia James48 Nov 2020 #10
The thing that scares him most is getting a prison haircut. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2020 #14
Lock him up!!!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2020 #15

Laffy Kat

(16,386 posts)
8. I've thought about that, too.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 10:37 PM
Nov 2020

He could cause some real harm, too. Hopefully, he's not long for this world.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,157 posts)
13. HAH!
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 08:27 AM
Nov 2020

Joe needs to have an 'executive order' ready at midnight on the 20th that seizes every single passport from that cabal of criminals. Make them flee illegally and then they are fugatives. They can try to hide, but you know damn well they won't be able to keep away. Their ego will be the final nail in that legal coffin.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
17. Yup - the Aeroflot charter is already booked. Stop that plane!
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:37 AM
Nov 2020

They're gonna have to send the Antonov to haul Trump's huge ass.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
20. Yes, but unfortunately, the only destination for the Atlas is orbit.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 01:55 PM
Nov 2020

Oh, wait, I see where you're going with that...

raccoon

(31,126 posts)
16. I wish she would flee, do some shit hole country they will take him.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:45 AM
Nov 2020

I wish she would flee, do some shit hole country they will take him.

I just want to get rid of his ass. And his sleazy family too.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
3. Good.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 10:10 PM
Nov 2020

There need to be consequences to breaking the law. Even for ex presidents. I think part of how we got here was the decision not to go after the Bush administration members who broke the law. We will be here again if there’s no price to pay for completely flouting the constitution and rule of law.

Response to Harker (Reply #11)

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
6. I think pursuing all legal action against him will be the only way to shut his pie hole
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 10:20 PM
Nov 2020

He will be a dangerous demagogue otherwise.

James48

(4,440 posts)
10. Maybe he will flee to Saudi Arabia
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 11:58 PM
Nov 2020

Amd have the bonesaw Prince put him up in one of his places.

They are on such good terms, you know🪓

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