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Kablooie

(18,644 posts)
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 12:06 AM Dec 2020

Trump Won't Pardon His Family Because They May Testify Against Him

President Donald Trump will not pardon his family members or close allies because of the legal risks it might pose for himself, his former lawyer and fixer (Michael Cohen) has said.
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"Donald Trump cares for no one or for anything except for himself... that includes his own children. Donald Trump will only do what benefits Donald Trump."

Cohen said that if Trump pre-pardoned his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who has not been charged with any crime, Kushner would lose his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.

"That means that Jared could be compelled to testify in a court of law or even have to appear before a hearing before Congress," he said, adding that the questions asked of him would be "against Donald Trump."

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https://www.newsweek.com/trump-wont-pardon-his-family-because-they-may-testify-against-him-says-ex-lawyer-1555953

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unblock

(52,387 posts)
2. Oh please. As if they'll ever say anything
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 12:22 AM
Dec 2020

They'll delay
They'll claim executive privilege
They'll claim nation secrets are involved
They'll make up all kinds of excuses not to testify
Then they'll just ignore subpoenas
If they ever actually are compelled to testify, they'll claim 5th amendment rights based on state-level offenses or possibly federal offenses not covered by the pardon

And if that doesn't work, they'll just use the Reagan defense -- "golly gee. I just don't remember."

JI7

(89,280 posts)
9. They will all do whatever they can to save themselves including testifying against each other
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 05:48 AM
Dec 2020

Trump would easily sell out his kids including IVanka if it meant saving himself.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
4. He is saying Trump doesn't trust his own children enough to pardon them.
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 12:35 AM
Dec 2020

Put another way, if Trump could betray his own father for some advantage, he would, so he thinks his
kids would betray him if they could.

marble falls

(57,375 posts)
10. If he pardons them and they lie for him, they go to jail. If supoened and they refuse to ...
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 08:37 AM
Dec 2020

testify - they're in contempt and go to jail.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
11. One of our lawyers, my nephew who is a defense lawyer, likes to tell us that if we were ever
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 12:29 PM
Dec 2020

picked up by the police, even if we are totally innocent, the first words out of our mouth should be, "I want to call my lawyer.". He also told us that we should never commit a crime unless we could give the DA info on someone who committed a far worse crime.

beastie boy

(9,506 posts)
12. The same aplies if trump pardons himself, no? This would lead to a batshit hilarious situation
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 02:04 PM
Dec 2020

Imagine if you will: come January 21, if anyone sues anyone else in a federal court and calls trump as a witness, trump, no longer having protections under the 5th amendment or executive privilege, must rat on every one of his accomplices that have any reasonable connection to any lawsuit to come. That includes Jarod, Ivanka, his company's CFO, Uncle Vlad, etc, etc. And they are all aware of it, just as trump is aware of the perils of pardoning any of them. I can't possibly imagine more people shitting their pants at the mention of the word "pardon". I bet they are all making plans to hire the best lawyers to argue that a self-pardon is unconstitutional. Except,maybe Uncle Vlad. He probably has some diplomat measuring windows on the 20th floor of Trump Tower.

But coming back to trump's testimony, it is more likely that the compulsive liar will just lie his ass off. Not because he has any moral reservation against ratting his cronies out, but because he just can't help himself.

Oh, the possibilities are delicious, no matter how you look at it!

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