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babylonsister

(171,054 posts)
Sat May 19, 2012, 09:04 PM May 2012

The Nation: Reality Bites Republicans

Reality Bites Republicans
Chris Mooney
May 16, 2012 | This article appeared in the June 4, 2012 edition of The Nation.



In recent months a growing chorus of commentators has begun to dismantle the notion that the current polarization of American politics is equally the fault of “both sides.” Most notably, two old Washington hands and collaborators, the Brookings Institution’s Thomas Mann and the American Enterprise Institute’s Norman Ornstein, have directly blamed the Republican Party’s ideological extremism for our predicament. And they exhort journalists to stop splitting the difference between the two parties and to start telling the truth about which one is really driving the polarization and refusing to compromise.

Political ideologues don’t merely fail to compromise, however; they also concoct their own reality. Mann’s and Ornstein’s recommendations, accordingly, can be extended to the realm of reporting on fact itself—e.g., to the media watchdogs who strive for evenhandedness as they fact-check the statements of politicians on both sides of the aisle.

After all, we live at a time when Republican “Big Lies”—ranging from the denial of global warming, to claims about “death panels” (PolitiFact’s 2009 “Lie of the Year”) and a “government takeover of healthcare” (the 2010 “Lie of the Year”), to the assertion that President Obama goes around “apologizing” for America—are everywhere. In this context, is it not appropriate that the arbiters of political reality also take a stand?

In fact, there is reason to think that, at least in a subtle way, they already have—because the facts have forced them to.


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http://www.thenation.com/article/167930/reality-bites-republicans

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The Nation: Reality Bites Republicans (Original Post) babylonsister May 2012 OP
There was another article the other day citing Mann& Ornstein Alcibiades May 2012 #1
Great example safeinOhio May 2012 #2
Thanks for the post on this, Babylonsister... Permanut May 2012 #3
Of course, Teabaggers will just use this as proof that Politifact is part of the librul conspiracy nxylas May 2012 #4

Alcibiades

(5,061 posts)
1. There was another article the other day citing Mann& Ornstein
Sat May 19, 2012, 10:44 PM
May 2012

that noted the mainstream press has hardly taken note of their latest effort at all. At least there's still The Nation.

safeinOhio

(32,668 posts)
2. Great example
Sat May 19, 2012, 10:58 PM
May 2012
http://www.freep.com/article/20120516/OPINION04/205160358/Letters-Drill-baby-drill-hits-close-to-home-in-Oakland-County
Letters: 'Drill, baby, drill' hits close to home in Oakland County

The residents of one of the most Republican counties in the state are getting a little taste of the consequences of their votes ("Oakland County drilling fears rise; Mineral rights auction worries lakes neighbors," May 5).
Republicans want the federal government reined in. Republicans want the EPA eliminated. Republicans want regulations on business reduced or eliminated. Now Big Oil is on their pricey doorstep with drill rigs and digging equipment, chemicals and salt water, money and influence to drill, baby, drill.

Permanut

(5,598 posts)
3. Thanks for the post on this, Babylonsister...
Sun May 20, 2012, 02:48 AM
May 2012

Mooney is reflecting here on the old false equivalency argument, whereby there is no longer any right and wrong, only disagreement. Let's say, for example, that Hitler had a disagreement with the Jews: he thought they should be exterminated, they thought not. Just a disagreement, a polarization of thought, right?

This tactic has poisoned the discourse in American politics. I know it can be a slippery slope when anyone claims they are right by some kind of morality measure, but sometimes they are right. And most of the time it's us.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
4. Of course, Teabaggers will just use this as proof that Politifact is part of the librul conspiracy
Sun May 20, 2012, 05:39 AM
May 2012

The advantage of being in a cult is that it's very easy to dismiss facts in this way - if it comes from "outside the compound", it can't be trusted.

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