Babies These Days...

[joebaur42]

Over 83% of England is English, over 94% of China is Chinese. And yet here we are, the greatest country in the world, and only 0.2% of our country is Native American.

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[JNelson6563]

1. Not to split hairs or anything....

(I refrain from comment on China as I know nothing of it)

England experienced much of what the Native Americans did only long before. Vikings, Saxons, Normans, they all came and slaughtered and raped and pillaged. It wasn't until around 1220 or so where the English people actually started to think of themselves as one people. That of course was due mostly to shared suffering (nothing brings people together like it!).

America was simply subjected to what most of Europe was long after.

Just throwin' that out there.

Julie

[muriel_volestrangler]

2. It was a more gradual change, and not as complete as once thought

There were various invasions and takeovers, but DNA studies show English ancestry it not all that different from Welsh, Irish or Scottish - a certain amount of Saxon/Danish, especially in the east, but still a lot of ancestry that appears to have been on the island for several thousand years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_the_British_Isles

[Plucketeer]

3. We're all Africans

when you get right down to it. Just because there's no recorded accounts of it, it's the earliest of our lineage that set out to find and settle new lands. My most recent descendants came to the USA since the 1880s, but even more distant progenitors pioneered their way across Asia and down into North America to soften things up for my ultimate arrival. For that I tip my hat to them!

[JNelson6563]

4. England was considered Saxon before 1066

And many seem to think it was always Anglo-Saxon before the Normans came. Of course all of the mixing of races in the end comes together, as DNA evidence shows.

Julie--who agrees that no genocide and resettlement has been as thorough as the US

[Cal33]

8. "It wasn't until around 1220 or so where the English people actually started to think of themselves

as one people>" Not really, and this applies to every nation in the world. There were/are
class differences. The nobility would never intermingle with the commoners, for
instance. And among the non-nobility, there were/are differences according to one's
occupation...etc... right up to the present time. This is still more prominent in England
today than it is in most other countries. It is still rather prevalent in Japan, I hear, where
butchers are at the bottom of the social heap. In India, even though the government is
doing what it can to eliminate the caste system, ancient customs still have not been
entirely eliminated.

If all the people in our country were of the white race, there still would be these differences
as described above, and the national origin differences that existed not so long ago would
probably return again. If there isn't racial, there will be ethnic and class differences.

Some people, especially the sociopaths, just need to feel themselves to be better than
anybody else. This is quite common all over the globe. It isn't confined to the white
race. It's just one of the unpleasant human traits.

[JNelson6563]

9. Clarification: I was referring to the masses

Instead of Saxons or Normans, they were more and more considering themselves (and each other) "English".

Julie

[Cal33]

10. Yes, the masses do consider and refer to themselves as "English," but how far does

this "Englishness" really go? Could it be a kept-up front that Englishmen pay lip service to,
mainly to convince themselves that they are, first and foremost, English - and this
suggests that there is a strong tie of unity. I personally think that this sense of unity
does appear during war-time, for instance, when Englishmen do unite to fight the enemy,
and for their own existence.

Outside of that in everyday life, the majority of Englishmen practically live in communities,
separated by class. The walls may not be not that evident, but they are there. A well-
educated Englishman in another forum has just recently written that anyone who stepped
outside of those boundaries would be quickly reminded of where he did not belong and be
put "in his place." It was an embarrassment to him that the English, in this day and age,
still were living in lthis fashion. Class exists in Continental Europe also, but to a lesser degree.

From my point of view, I believe that in varying degrees class still exists everywhere in this
world of ours.

[Dustlawyer]

5. In America it should be the great shame how we continue to treat some Native Americans.

[treestar]

6. I don't see the relevance to anything

Is there some racist idea that the rest of us do not belong here? We do, by now.

There have been migrations all over the planet since there were humans. They are too long ago to do anything about.

[FarCenter]

7. Agriculturalists generally have replaced hunter gatherer populations

Whether expansion of cow herding grain farmers from theMiddle East into Europe, the expansion of rice farmers in the Far East, or the expansion of Bantus across Africa, current genomic data generally supports the migration of large numbers of agriculturalist into areas occupied by small numbers of hunter gatherers.

The result is that the agriculturalists generally have contributed a lot more to the gene pool.