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eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 04:13 PM Mar 2021

A majority of the people arrested for Capitol riot had a history of financial trouble (WaPo)

Trail of bankruptcies, tax problems and bad debts raises questions for researchers trying to understand motivations for attack

By Todd C. Frankel
Feb. 10, 2021 at 5:29 a.m. CST

Jenna Ryan seemed like an unlikely participant in the mob that stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. She was a real estate agent from Texas. She flew into Washington on a private jet. And she was dressed that day in clothes better suited for a winter tailgate than a war.

Yet Ryan, 50, is accused of rushing into the Capitol past broken glass and blaring security alarms and, according to federal prosecutors, shouting: “Fight for freedom! Fight for freedom!”
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Despite her outward signs of success, Ryan had struggled financially for years. She was still paying off a $37,000 lien for unpaid federal taxes when she was arrested. She’d nearly lost her home to foreclosure before that. She filed for bankruptcy in 2012 and faced another IRS tax lien in 2010.

Nearly 60 percent of the people facing charges related to the Capitol riot showed signs of prior money troubles, including bankruptcies, notices of eviction or foreclosure, bad debts, or unpaid taxes over the past two decades, according to a Washington Post analysis of public records for 125 defendants with sufficient information to detail their financial histories.

The group’s bankruptcy rate — 18 percent — was nearly twice as high as that of the American public, The Post found. A quarter of them had been sued for money owed to a creditor. And 1 in 5 of them faced losing their home at one point, according to court filings.
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more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/02/10/capitol-insurrectionists-jenna-ryan-financial-problems/




Not LBN, but I felt like posting it after reading this post by Soothsayer -- https://democraticunderground.com/100215224262

I've seen a lot of posts on DU about poor treatment by business owners and managers -- the kind who think they are always right and everyone has to do whatever they say without question. The kind who think anyone who can run a business, and find out the hard way that it is a lot harder than it looks. The kind who think gubmint should keep its hands off of business, and then find out they can't compete with big corps who have had all the laws written to favor them over small businesses. When they get in financial trouble, of course there's only one thing to do: blame someone else, like "the libs" and immigrants, and "those people".
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Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
2. An observation from Anne Applebaum's book "Twilight of Democracy"
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 04:22 PM
Mar 2021

The movement to destroy a democracy is also a reaction against meritocracy, waged by people who cannot seem to do very well in the countries in which they find themselves, preferring an arrangement where loyalty and unquestioned obedience to the autocrat gets you farther than ingenuity, skill, hard work or education. (Paraphrasing a concept from her new book).

stopdiggin

(11,248 posts)
5. Nah. These people are the ones
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 04:58 PM
Mar 2021

that have been 'smarter than everyone else' their whole lives. Rationalizing (and that's the right word) their behavior as the result of external forces and life circumstances is a dodge on their responsibilities. (which they would be more than quick to assign to everyone else, I might add)

"Economically disadvantaged" is a divorced mother of three, that lost her job at the mill -- and is trying to juggle rent and food assistance. And I guarantee she didn't show up in Washington. The car doesn't run -- cable is shut off, and electric threatened -- and child care is, a distant mirage. The people the WoPo is trying to highlight aren't victims of hard luck (and dislocation) -- they're mostly middle class grifters. Totally different mind-set. And I reserve my sympathies for the truly disadvantaged and oppressed.

Chainfire

(17,474 posts)
6. They probably had family troubles and legal problems too because
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 05:10 PM
Mar 2021

they are a bunch of losers, looking for someone to blame their failures on. It's the liberal's fault, it's the blacks fault, it's the Latino's fault.

Biophilic

(3,633 posts)
7. Look, obviously these aren't the brightest or most thoughtful people. They have made bad
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 05:22 PM
Mar 2021

decisions and, at least now, many are blaming everyone else but themselves. If they aren't responsible for their current actions why would we think they were responsible about past decisions? Many of us have made bad decisions, but we don't blame others we just keep trying to do things better. Most of us don't become angry and self-righteous. Most of us just put our backs to it again and try to move forward. We try to make better decisions instead of believing we are owed a living or blaming our 'luck' on others. Geeeze.

Irish_Dem

(46,564 posts)
8. Chronic and long term financial difficulties are a red flag for a number of possible
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 05:22 PM
Mar 2021

problems. Drug use, depression, psychosis, poor judgement, sociopathy, entitlement, gambling, etc.

keithbvadu2

(36,669 posts)
10. Trumpsters expecting a check from Soros?
Sat Mar 13, 2021, 06:22 PM
Mar 2021

"Paul Horner, whose fake news stories often go viral on Facebook and Twitter, told The Intersect, a Washington Post blog, that Trump supporters were especially susceptible to being fooled.
My sites were picked up by Trump supporters all the time,” Horner said. “I think Trump is in the White House because of me. "

“His followers don’t fact-check anything - they’ll post everything, believe anything. His campaign manager posted my story about a protester getting paid $3,500 as fact. Like, I made that up. I posted a fake ad on Craigslist.”

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/306524-fake-news-writer-i-think-trump-is-in-the-white-house-because-of

machoneman

(3,999 posts)
13. Methinks they were looking for a 'Savior' . No kidding, folks who support Trump did or do look....
Sun Mar 14, 2021, 02:31 PM
Mar 2021

...for someone to bail them out of their poor financial choices, job loss, life's failures, et al. As a student of history, Trump's entreaties to his unwashed, degenerate and deplorable masses sounded all along like, yeah, Adolph Hitler's mantras of 1933. In fact, his entire approach was eerily similar in making identity politics a regular thing. Democrats, Rino republicans, gays, all minorities and more became instant enemies.

The appeal of a savior that would bail them out of WHATEVER dilemmas they were in was very strong and in my mind surpassed a number of other negative issues the media has promoted. But, the good news is he could not deliver! As a result, we are now reading how quickly those MAGATS have become deflated and disillusioned with Trump's politics and him in particular.

Sure, a hard core of MAGATS still exists but the numbers will quickly shrink (drowned in a bathtub maybe?) as Pres. Biden's agenda is fast surpassing the uneven, for-the-rich-only, and plain, flat-out, ill-conceived and poorly executed actions by Trump and his caravan of miscreants.

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