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Judi Lynn

(160,524 posts)
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 01:30 AM Mar 2021

St. Martin de Porres School: White headmaster placed on leave after telling a Black student to kneel

St. Martin de Porres School: White headmaster placed on leave after telling a Black student to kneel and apologize 'the African way'
By Evan Simko-Bednarski, CNN 41 mins ago

The White headmaster of a Catholic school on Long Island has been placed on leave following reports that he had a Black student kneel in apology last month, calling it "the African way" to apologize.

The headmaster was temporarily removed from his job at St. Martin de Porres School in Hempstead, New York, after parent Trisha Paul went to the local press regarding her 11-year-old son's treatment at the school.

The incident was first reported by the New York Daily News.

. . .

In an interview with CNN on Tuesday, Paul said she noticed her son seemed sad after school one day late last month. When she asked him what happened, he told her he'd been sent to the headmaster's office for working on an assignment in his Literature class during designated reading time.

Paul said her son's teacher took the assignment, tore it up, and brought her son to the headmaster's office. Once there, Paul said, the headmaster told her son to kneel before the teacher in apology.

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St. Martin de Porres School: White headmaster placed on leave after telling a Black student to kneel (Original Post) Judi Lynn Mar 2021 OP
The Teacher Needs An Attitude Adjustment Too, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2021 #1
Can't imagine how anyone could fix a wreck like him. Sadistic, racist liar. Judi Lynn Mar 2021 #23
That's some messed up shit there... 2naSalit Mar 2021 #2
Might've gotten away with it if he claimed it was 'the school way' ... Hugh_Lebowski Mar 2021 #3
He revealed himself as a totally dishonest fool. Unbelievable. Judi Lynn Mar 2021 #22
Catholic School. Iggo Mar 2021 #4
Yup. Product of that here too- alotta brainwashing. onetexan Mar 2021 #18
This was his terrible crime working on an assignment during reading time dawg day Mar 2021 #5
On a lighter note: Kittycow Mar 2021 #6
When my parents separated, my mom was obliged to find a job. secondwind Mar 2021 #7
That's terrible. :/ Kittycow Mar 2021 #9
Sadistic! How could a child be expected to absorb that soul-crushing bullying, anyway? Damn. Judi Lynn Mar 2021 #19
I'd bet you have a mental block as a way of distancing from that abberational experience! Judi Lynn Mar 2021 #20
If only some powerful authority could move to cleanse the ancient hostile emotional game-playing Judi Lynn Mar 2021 #21
Some things never change Lilaclady Mar 2021 #8
That sociopathic behavior with children must hit them like a ton of bricks. Heavy handed. Horrid. Judi Lynn Mar 2021 #17
John Patrick Holian, headmaster: dalton99a Mar 2021 #10
It helps to have a face to associate with his bizarre behavior around humans. Thank you. Judi Lynn Mar 2021 #14
Headmaster Ritual prodigitalson Mar 2021 #26
I'll see those and raise you..... 3Hotdogs Mar 2021 #11
Jeezus. That has to be a first. She should have had to answer for that. Thanks. Judi Lynn Mar 2021 #15
I don't know what the consequences were, if any. Confirmation was the following Saturday. 3Hotdogs Mar 2021 #25
What a jackass Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2021 #12
Ah...Long Island... NNadir Mar 2021 #13
Not only would that have traumatized him, but probably some of the sympathetic witnesses. Judi Lynn Mar 2021 #16
Well, it certainly stuck with my wife. She can still talk about it nearly half a century later. NNadir Mar 2021 #24
Unruly boys who will not grow up must be taken in hand prodigitalson Mar 2021 #27

Judi Lynn

(160,524 posts)
23. Can't imagine how anyone could fix a wreck like him. Sadistic, racist liar.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:32 AM
Mar 2021

What a shame a young man was forced to be exposed to his sickness.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. Might've gotten away with it if he claimed it was 'the school way' ...
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 02:01 AM
Mar 2021

It being a Catholic school and such.

The African Way, though?

You gotta be kidding with that shit

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
5. This was his terrible crime working on an assignment during reading time
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 02:12 AM
Mar 2021
he'd been sent to the headmaster's office for working on an assignment in his Literature class during designated reading time.

Paul said her son's teacher took the assignment, tore it up, and brought her son to the headmaster's office. Once there, Paul said, the headmaster told her son to kneel before the teacher in apology.


I went to parochial school decades ago, and remember that insistence on arbitrary enforcement of unspoken rules. It was deliberately designed to humiliate. Sad to see some headmasters and teachers still go for that, if only for SOME students.

(I bet you the pretty blonde student named Sarah Sullivan would be praised for "multitasking" if she did the same, and no, of course there was no blonde student named Sarah Sullivan in my 5th grade class-- you surely don't think I'd hold a grudge this long?)

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
6. On a lighter note:
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 03:59 AM
Mar 2021

Heck, I'm still not over Sister Bernice Msrie taking away my mother's worn out lipstick case that she gave me to hold cuz I was scared to be in the first grade.

And that was over sixty years ago.

However, in the seventh grade, the parents banded together and had the nun removed from the classroom mid-year because she was so mean and unfair to the kids. I guess I was inured to it by then since I can't remember her name for the life of me.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
7. When my parents separated, my mom was obliged to find a job.
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 04:28 AM
Mar 2021

My younger sister and I were placed in a Catholic boarding school in New Jersey. We were there for six years. My dad was a diplomat and so he couldn’t come visit so often. The first time he came, it was not a visiting day, and in my rush to leave the classroom to see my dad, I was running with one shoelace untied.

The nun scolded me, and made me wear the shoe on my head, as I walked to see my father. It was mortifying. I was 8-9 yrs old.

Am 74 today, and still feel the sting.

Judi Lynn

(160,524 posts)
19. Sadistic! How could a child be expected to absorb that soul-crushing bullying, anyway? Damn.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:01 AM
Mar 2021

Not a bit surprised you feel it, even now.

Doesn't make a bit of sense.

Can't imagine anyone would stoop to punish a child for running with an unlaced shoe. Hideous.

Judi Lynn

(160,524 posts)
20. I'd bet you have a mental block as a way of distancing from that abberational experience!
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:08 AM
Mar 2021

It seems sweet, and unexpectedly thoughtful to me that your mother arrived at the idea of giving you an article of hers to keep close to remind you of her concern and caring for you when you were anxious.

I really don't think there are many people with the presence of mind to do something kind and creative like that. What a shame the woman decided to use it to target and frighten you.

I don't get what that's all about. So weird.

Judi Lynn

(160,524 posts)
21. If only some powerful authority could move to cleanse the ancient hostile emotional game-playing
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:19 AM
Mar 2021

these people inflict upon the trapped, helpless. students, and work to simply do their jobs honestly.

It can only confuse, frighten, and depress young ones, and turn them out into the world battered, and shaken, far less hopeful than they were when they arrived.

Their presence in the lives of students harms them. It doesn't make them better, stronger people to try so hard to scuff up and terrorize everyone but the worst two-faced brats!

Lilaclady

(71 posts)
8. Some things never change
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 07:02 AM
Mar 2021

I remember having to clean the convent or the church pews. In second grade while practicing in the church for first communion I got yanked out of line for walking too fast. My sister wore lipstick to confession one Saturday and the nun rubbed her lips dry trying to get the lipstick off. I am also 74.

Judi Lynn

(160,524 posts)
17. That sociopathic behavior with children must hit them like a ton of bricks. Heavy handed. Horrid.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:55 AM
Mar 2021

dalton99a

(81,455 posts)
10. John Patrick Holian, headmaster:
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 10:49 AM
Mar 2021

John Patrick Holian, headmaster of St. Martin de Porres Marianist School in Uniondale, in 2008. Credit: Newsday/Bruce Gilbert

prodigitalson

(2,408 posts)
26. Headmaster Ritual
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 07:38 PM
Mar 2021

Mid-week on the playing fields
Sir thwacks you on the knees
Knees you in the groin
Elbows in the face
Bruises bigger than dinner plates
I want to go home
I don't want to stay

Headmaster Ritual
by The Smiths

3Hotdogs

(12,374 posts)
11. I'll see those and raise you.....
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 02:07 PM
Mar 2021

Springfield, N.J., approx 1952. Confirmation class.

We were in the school hallway, reciting our Catechism in preparation for the bishop coming to confirm us. The fucking nun slammed a kid's head into the wall because he mispronounced a word.

The kid collapsed, out cold and we were ushered back into our classrooms. I don't know the extent of the kid's injury but there was blood on the wall when we left the classrooms that afternoon.

3Hotdogs

(12,374 posts)
25. I don't know what the consequences were, if any. Confirmation was the following Saturday.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 07:16 AM
Mar 2021

After that, there were no more classes, so I never saw any of the nuns again.

Legal charges would have been covered up -- if there even were any.

Med bills would have been paid, along with an assumption that they would have been donated back to the church.... unless it was a large amount for serious damages.

NNadir

(33,513 posts)
13. Ah...Long Island...
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 10:50 PM
Mar 2021

...I grew up there...

Looking back...well...what can I say...what can I say?

Though it's shocking, I'm not entirely surprised.

When my wife went to Catholic school, a boy was locked in a closet with Barbie dolls for being effeminate.

NNadir

(33,513 posts)
24. Well, it certainly stuck with my wife. She can still talk about it nearly half a century later.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 07:15 AM
Mar 2021

I can remember only a few things from elementary school myself, most all of them unpleasant.

prodigitalson

(2,408 posts)
27. Unruly boys who will not grow up must be taken in hand
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 07:56 PM
Mar 2021

Unruly boys
who will not grow up
must be taken in hand
unruly girls
who will not settle down
they must be taken in hand
A crack on the head
is what you get for not asking
and a crack on the head
is what you get for asking

Barbarism Begins at Home
Song by the Smiths

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