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reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
Wed May 26, 2021, 07:29 AM May 2021

Is Wokeness 'Kryponite for Democrats'?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/26/opinion/democrats-republicans-wokeness-cancel-culture.html

In much gentler terms, Barack Obama has voiced analogous concerns. “This idea of purity and you’re never compromised and you’re always politically woke and all that stuff, you should get over that quickly,” Obama famously declared in October 2019:

The world is messy. There are ambiguities. People who do really good stuff have flaws. People who you are fighting may love their kids and share certain things with you.

James Carville, the top strategist for Bill Clinton’s 1992 presidential campaign, was succinct in his assessment. He recently told Sean Illing, a writer at Vox,

Wokeness is a problem and everyone knows it. It’s hard to talk to anybody today — and I talk to lots of people in the Democratic Party — who doesn’t say this. But they don’t want to say it out loud.

“Why not?” Illing asked.

“Because they’ll get clobbered.”
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House of Roberts

(5,168 posts)
2. That's like saying undeserved tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans
Wed May 26, 2021, 07:54 AM
May 2021

and eliminating accountability for the corrupt oppressor class, is 'Kryptonite for Republicans'.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
7. Both of those policies...
Wed May 26, 2021, 09:15 AM
May 2021

... are kryptonite for republicans. That's why they would rather rant and rave about wokeness or pc or whatever.

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
3. I have a little trouble with it
Wed May 26, 2021, 08:17 AM
May 2021

I find it to be laudable goal but it should remain a goal.

For me, I feel like the term implies that the goal has been attained. I would rather see it as a continuous journey for improvement.

The implication is that people who are "woke" have all the answers figured out. That rarely goes over well regardless of the subject.

Voltaire2

(13,008 posts)
4. So we should all shut up about
Wed May 26, 2021, 08:24 AM
May 2021

Racist sexist homophobic behavior and in particular stop whining every time our valiant police murder somebody.

Ok. Also probably stop demanding living wages and universal healthcare, right?

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
6. Yup. That's what this is all about.
Wed May 26, 2021, 08:55 AM
May 2021

We could form the "Cure Cancer Culture" moniker and the Rs would deride and mock THAT as some communist/facist/Nazi plot.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
12. No. It doesn't matter what "wokeness" is or is not limited to...
Wed May 26, 2021, 09:29 PM
May 2021

... if you say "stupid stuff" you get smeared. And "defund the police" is, in my humble opinion, "stupid stuff".

And it doesn't mean "the police have too much money". From the article:


Or take this defense of the call to “defund the police” by Rushi Shah, a graduate student in computer science at Princeton’s Center for Information Technology Policy. Shah wrote an op-ed in the Jan. 21 Daily Princetonian:

"..... You may be wondering what exactly people mean when they say, 'defund the police.' Yes, we mean literally abolish the police."


Being "woke" should include being smart. That doesn't seem to always be the case.

Captain Zero

(6,800 posts)
5. I think it has jumped the shark with GOP using it, maybe we should talk about good old fashioned
Wed May 26, 2021, 08:38 AM
May 2021
'political maturity' like FDR did.

KPN

(15,642 posts)
9. THIS.
Wed May 26, 2021, 10:58 AM
May 2021

It’s not the idea of being “woke” specifically that is “kryptonite”, it’s the vague label as applied in derogatory fashion by Rs. It’s just another derogatory label that they are — like it or not — so masterful at in their regimented messaging.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
10. Oh, fer chrissake - enough with taking advice from idiots. Social justice is core to the brand,
Wed May 26, 2021, 02:35 PM
May 2021

and core to voter motivation.

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