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[WhoIsNumberNone]

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[msongs]

1. stop picking on the president...and congress. tomorrow is a holiday to celebrate the military nt

[jerseyjack]

5. I don't think it is to celebrate the military. It is to honor the people and their sacrifice.

I don't think there is anything to celebrate. The people fighting the wars believed they were doing the right thing. Depending on the war, most of us believe our wars were without honorable purpose. Whether it was Granada, Viet Nam, Korea, Hawaii, Columbia/Pamama, Wounded Knee, Cambodia, Laos, Tippecanoe, Black Kettle, Russia in 1919, Mexico, ...on and on... and add to that the C.I.A. actions.

Many of us believe the purpose of most of their service was for bullshit reasons. Isn't the best way to honor and respect that sacrifice, to do what we can to expose the bullshit so that people question the next war?

And the next war at the top of the list for countries to invade: Iran.

The presidents and Congress can't be picked on enough.

[chervilant]

2. Far too many

of the Hoi Polloi will spend this holiday being the good little patriotic consumers they've been trained to be...

[DirkGently]

3. No better to time re-evaluate the costs of war. Chris Hayes

raised an interesting discussion this morning as to what we are honoring, and how the idealism surrounding war and words like "heroism" clouds discussion.

[chknltl]

4. knr, bookmarked and thank you eom.

[Jim Lane]

6. I think that graph actually understates the case.

A big chunk of the Department of Energy budget is devoted to nuclear bombs.

Furthermore, the graph is limited to discretionary spending. That presumably excludes interest on past debt, much of which was incurred to fight wars.

[bemildred]

7. $553 billion is not 59% of $1.34 trillion.

Just saying, that sort of thing doesn't help the argument being made.

[WhoIsNumberNone]

8. Good point- I just did the calculation

It's 41%. Whoever made that graphic got it backwards.

[WhoIsNumberNone]

9. Self-deleting

Confession: It's a long article, and I didn't read all of it before posting. Now I see that about 2/3 of the way down the author starts plugging for Ron Paul. Sigh. And up to that point it had been a good article too- forwarded to me on Facebook by a well known liberal and occupier who probably made the same lazy mistake.

Sorry.