Opinion: Does Putin want a diplomatic solution in Ukraine? It's not looking that way.
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U.S. officials believe that some of Putins advisers see danger ahead if Putin invades but they arent able to get this message to the boss. The sanctions that would follow an assault on Ukraine would make it hard for Russia to sell its energy abroad or to buy the technology it needs to supply its defense industry, let alone the rest of the economy. Russias financial reserves are large, but they would quickly be depleted as it sought to bolster its currency and pay its bills. U.S. officials reckon that under sanctions, Russia would be starved of inputs, and China, its only major ally, couldnt fill the gaps.
President Biden has looked for a pathway for Putin to back away from this crisis. In a phone call Saturday with the Russian leader, Biden is said to have countered Putins claims that the West doesnt address his security concerns by summarizing the ways America is prepared to discuss shared stability for Europe. To Putins insistence that the United States ignores Russias red lines, Biden counseled continued dialogue. The leaders talked about follow-on meetings, but no real channel for discussion has opened yet.
An impasse remains on Putins fundamental demand for a NATO guarantee that Ukraine wont ever become a member. A statement by Ukraines ambassador to London that Kyiv was ready to give up its aspirations for NATO membership was quickly disavowed Monday by President Volodymyr Zelenskys government in Kyiv. But even on this question, formulas may be found to finesse the difference stating the widely understood reality that Ukraine wont join NATO any time soon without formally guaranteeing it.
Putins course may already be set for Kyiv. Its hard to imagine that he has moved a vast army to the Ukraine border twice in the past year, only to retreat. Only Putin knows what he will do next in this self-created crisis. But even he cant answer the classic question: Tell me how this ends?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/14/diplomatic-solution-putin-biden-ukraine/
How about Ukraine joins NATO when Russia does?
Of course both nations would need to meet NATO's minimum requirements but they could come in as a pair.
It saves face for everyone involved.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,355 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Let him wallow in it. Bully!
Uncle Joe
(58,355 posts)so much as the Russian people.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)But one doesn"t get an invite by being a world-class jerk.
Uncle Joe
(58,355 posts)before Russia could join NATO, they would need to be much closer to a democracy and Putin will most likely not be in power then.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)while they all have good-sounding rationals (well, almost all) for their thinking, it all boils down to...
"We don't have fucking clue. Only Putin knows, if even he knows."
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elleng
(130,895 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(11,010 posts)Crowman2009
(2,495 posts)Something tells me that reviving the royalty will cause another Russian civil war.
Crowman2009
(2,495 posts)Something tells me that reviving the royalty will cause another Russian civil war.
Pantagruel
(2,580 posts)was to discourage Russian aggression, I thought?
Uncle Joe
(58,355 posts)to deter it than incorporate it...under the proper conditions?
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)I'm afraid it would work about as well as the UN Security Council, upon which Russia sits. It would just empower them to gum up the works.
Uncle Joe
(58,355 posts)all borders with every nation would have to be agreed to as well.
Putin could go out in a blaze of glory as their George Washington should he actually transition to such a thing but if he doesn't, he; like everyone else can't live forever.
I'm trying think as to why a democratic Russia would want to gum up their own security because that would be the end result should they be able to join NATO?
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)The steps that have been taken, have really cut Putin off from many of his possible actions. Unfortunately, it also has had the effect of basically cornering him. He either backs down, or he attacks. I suspect he'll delay for as long as he can to try to find some avenue of escape. To a great degree, Biden may have to "invent" one for him.
Uncle Joe
(58,355 posts)that's why I believe a Ukraine statement to that effect could serve all parties' stated needs.
It saves face, insures Ukraine's security, and give Russia hope for a better future as well.