Things would surely be different in Ukraine if Trump were president

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Donald Trump is right. If he were still president, the situation would be far different in Ukraine.

If Mike Pence had ignored his Hoosier values of truth, justice and the Constitution and cooperated in overturning the election results, Trump could now be president.

There would be no danger of armed conflict between Russia and NATO over Ukraine.

There would be no NATO. Trump contended throughout his first term that NATO was outdated. He belittled and insulted leaders of European nations in the alliance. He was reluctant to support the collective-defense agreement known as Article 5. By now in a second term, he would have pulled out of the alliance and scuttled it.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/colwell-things-surely-different-ukraine-100111208.html

[OAITW r.2.0]

1. He'd have joined in with Putin.

To rid Ukraine of Nazi-ism. (wink, wink).

[Me.]

2. IMHO...I Don't Think So

I believe it would've gone to the courts where they would have ruled against tfg as the fake electors would have been deemed illegal.

[Irish_Dem]

3. What would have happened when the case got to the Supreme Court?

[Me.]

4. Can't Say

but the shadow of 2000 hangs over them and Sandra Day O'Connor having made a point of saying they made a mistake and, I believe the constitution doesn't support what they were trying to do as Pence has no power to change anything. It would be tricky I grant you but I don't see it as a given that tfg would be allowed to stay.

[Skittles]

6. I don't think We the People would have tolerated it either

I mean seriously, WTF.

[Me.]

8. Right On

Like seriously

[Irish_Dem]

9. What could we the people do? We already tried to impeach him twice.

With no luck.

We would have had to put up with it until his second term was up. But he had been talking about being owed a third term. So who knows what would have happened.

Trump/GOP goal is total and permanent power like Xi and Putin.

[Skittles]

10. I think a buffoon stealing the presidency woould have been a tipping point

we will have to see

[Irish_Dem]

11. Nothing ever seems to be the tipping point with Trump and GOP.

[Skittles]

12. true

but declaring himself the "winner" after losing both the Electoral College and the popular vote.....that was never going to fly.....that's why the GOP is doubling down on voter suppression efforts

[Irish_Dem]

13. Yes once they have control over the voting process, they will stay in power.

[keithbvadu2]

5. Trump would still be giving intel to Putin.

[Borderer]

7. and he would have introduced economic sanctions...

...against any countries intervening in the "police action" by supplying weapons or aid to either of the belligerents. Of course only one of the belligerents actually needs externally supplied weapons and aid, and the fact that he is personally 400M in hock to the leader of the other belligerent would be purely coincidental.

Also, things would be very tense indeed in the Baltic states. In due course T###p would casually mention on a phone in to Fox and Friends that he thinks Lithuania is actually an illegal breakaway region of Russia and that the European Union is the second greatest threat to world peace after wind farms.

[lees1975]

14. Yep, things would be different

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